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 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

I know there are a couple of older threads on the subject but......my two cents:

Just yesterday I realized that Goldsmith's re-recording in London with the National Philharmonic is available on ITunes. I had heard bits of this recording and have the Intrada release which is stellar, but my oh my, the re-record where Goldsmith rearranged and beefed up the orchestration is incredible! This recording/score HAS to rank with Sand Pebbles, Patton, Blue Max etc. as one of his greatest. When JG was working on genius level he had few peers. This is one of those.......

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

The re-recording of "Break Out" is a superb action track. The same track on the Intrada original recording is frustrating to listen to by comparison.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

Yep - film score vs album:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=76388&forumID=1&archive=0

Intrada release:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110982&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

search engine dammitttttttt!!!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

"I don't know. Don't say no!"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Not much to add but totally agree. The film tracks, while appreciable, just can't match that NPO re-recording. It's just tremendous and still sounds great 40 years later. Goldsmith working at the top of his game, this one.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'll be the descenting voice. I happily traded away the re-recording released by GNP. For me, the film tracks are the only way to go.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

The re-recording of "Break Out" is a superb action track. The same track on the Intrada original recording is frustrating to listen to by comparison.

I like the stuttery pacing of the original recording, but when you want to blow someone's socks off, you put on the original album, no question.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I'll be the descenting voice. I happily traded away the re-recording released by GNP. For me, the film tracks are the only way to go.


that's "dissenting"
your welcome
smile
brm

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'll be the descenting voice. I happily traded away the re-recording released by GNP. For me, the film tracks are the only way to go.


that's "dissenting"
your welcome
smile
brm


You capitalize the starts of sentences. Also missing punctuation.

And that's "you're" as in "you are welcome".



You're welcome.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I'll be the descenting voice. I happily traded away the re-recording released by GNP. For me, the film tracks are the only way to go.


that's "dissenting"
your welcome
smile
brm


You capitalize the starts of sentences. Also missing punctuation.

And that's "you're" as in "you are welcome".



You're welcome.


tooshey!

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I think in a way this was the quintessential Goldsmith action score and though I know I've heard some dissenting views I feel that it laid the blueprint (especially rhythmically) for both later Goldsmith as well as other film composers. I even heard some Goldsmith-esque rhythms on Close Encounters.

One of the things JG brought to the table is extensive use of the muted piano. By muting certain instruments, you get a quasi-muffled sound that can be played both legato and staccato (string orchestras, for instance) and gives a more restrained, less ringing sound. The choppy sound of the patented Goldsmith rhythm serves as the perfect, edgy counterpoint to JG's more involved percussive excursions.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

double yay

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

I know there are a couple of older threads on the subject but......my two cents:

Just yesterday I realized that Goldsmith's re-recording in London with the National Philharmonic is available on ITunes. I had heard bits of this recording and have the Intrada release which is stellar, but my oh my, the re-record where Goldsmith rearranged and beefed up the orchestration is incredible! This recording/score HAS to rank with Sand Pebbles, Patton, Blue Max etc. as one of his greatest. When JG was working on genius level he had few peers. This is one of those.......


I have the Collector's Choice edition of the re-recording and, for me, it surpasses the film recording of the score. I think the short clues on the Intrada release doesn't help with the listening experience.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

One thing that is a sort of trademark is that 'Fats' see-sawing na-na, na-na, na-na of the harmonica from Magic which appears here mainly on piano, I think. It's like JG's version of "Danger, Will Robinson!" Watch out, watch out, Fatz about.

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

One thing that is a sort of trademark is that 'Fats' see-sawing na-na, na-na, na-na of the harmonica from Magic which appears here mainly on piano, I think. It's like JG's version of "Danger, Will Robinson!" Watch out, watch out, Fatz about.

I hadn't thought of that...cool! Magic is an excellent score, too imo.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I have the LP, but didn't like it enough to buy the expanded version. I spin it once every few years. I don't think he had a ponytail for this album - that must have come later, right?

 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

I have the LP, but didn't like it enough to buy the expanded version. I spin it once every few years. I don't think he had a ponytail for this album - that must have come later, right?

Capricorn One was from 1978...




He sported the ponytail in the 90s...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2018 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Capricorn One was from 1978...




He sported the ponytail in the 90s...



As I thought. Close call! The only ponytail album I own is LA Confidential.

 
 Posted:   Apr 10, 2018 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

One thing that is a sort of trademark is that 'Fats' see-sawing na-na, na-na, na-na of the harmonica from Magic which appears here mainly on piano, I think. It's like JG's version of "Danger, Will Robinson!" Watch out, watch out, Fatz about.

I hadn't thought of that...cool! Magic is an excellent score, too imo.


It also appears in Alien, come to think of it. It's those two notes repeating about four times. If you go back even further, you get to: dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun, dun-dun, DUN-dun. It isn't inconceivable JG borrowed a concatenated sequence from you know who, for placement in his own motifs.

 
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