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A fun adventure romp at times. It’s kinda written like a disaster movie where at every turn something else goes wrong, and the solutions are rather far fetched. It's filled with disaster movie cliches, both from a dramatic standpoint and character interplay. There's few surprises.
And you have just perfectly described Lost in Space and Irwin Allen's style of film and TV making.
Probably one of the reasons I enjoy this series as much as I do. In many ways, it nails the source material, if not in strict execution, then in spirit.
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May 6, 2018 - 8:47 AM
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Finished the series and my reaction remains the same, it was kinda "meh". Wonderful production technically speaking, beautiful location shooting, fine camera work and direction, but weak script. There were moments I got into the family dynamics and cared for them, other times I didn't. I think the bouncing around in time and plot specific Easter eggs just made for a confused mess. I'm still not exactly sure what happened in the beginning of the first episode! And I don't know what happened at the end. Where did that other alien craft come from, where did it go?
While this series doesn't treat men as bad as the new SJW Star Wars universe, the men are generally portrayed as "dimwitted, selfish, troublemakers". While the women are smart, witty and confident. Not that the females are Mary Sue, they're not. They have some flaws and grow. But the male characters have less importance, are less knowledgeable, silly, and aren't very interesting. (Even Will. Did he ever do anything smart? In retrospect he was the cause of a lot of the problems)
And you really have to turn your brain off to enjoy this series. How the hell did John and Don survive the disintegration of their ship?! They were strapped in the cockpit. How did they end up in a 10 foot section of corridor free floating in orbit? How does a tiny piece of the ship have any power at all? WTF?! The thing is they even had a clever excuse for what looked like an explosion from the ground' and didn't use that excuse. They could've kept the ship intact, but without power in orbit.
Outside of that the script is seriously cliched. You know everything that's going to happen, real no surprises.
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Just watched episode one..pretty much have to agree with Sol...Soli...Solium!!
Big nothing..
Brm
Will skip this thread until i have watched more eps.
Just not sure i will finish the season
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Jul 1, 2018 - 2:54 PM
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Octoberman
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So I finally caught up with this the other day and I binge-watched the whole thing.
My comments are going to be sort of scattershot and unorganized.
I don't care for the music. It is serviceable, but doesn't cue or telegraph the mood of the scenes in which it appears. And you badly need that quality in storytelling that is this dour and lacking in humor.
And the slow, "epic" theme that is scattered throughout steals too much from JW's 5-note Jurassic motif. Good thing Lennertz changed that 5th note!
Speaking of the humor...
Real life is not this humorless--even in extraordinarily bad circumstances.
The only bit that made me genuinely LOL was the helium-ed "I love you, too".
THAT was a true human moment and, because it sticks out like a sore thumb, it felt like an outtake that was somehow sneaked into the finished episode.
It seems to me that half the characters in the story would not be judged fit for space travel, based on the flaws in their personalities--going right up to that Victor guy. No leader would be able to get away with that level of arrogant condescension without soon getting shived by someone--he would be psychologically unsuitable as a civilian leader or a military leader.
John put up with WAY too much dismissive verbal abuse at the hands of Maureen. Yes, we eventually learn why her anger is so evident, but it speaks to the fact that a mega Type-A like her would never have hooked up with an amiable jarhead like John in the first place. He's treated like crap until his archetypal masculine instincts save their arses. Interesting reverse-sexism, but that's par for the course nowadays innit?
Don West was recast from the Han Solo mold. An amiable scoundrel. This page was probably torn from the way he was written in the 1998 movie--a movie I like very much because it didn't take itself too seriously and it had a lot of heart.
A tanker attachment for the Chariots would never be flimsy enough to be punctured by a rock if the intended use was heavy duty/outer space conditions.
The finale in the garage was lifted from the 1st "Alien".
WAY too much attention was given to make the brand of cookie unrealistically conspicuous. Did the producers deliberately intend on taking the audience out of the story with that bit of silliness?
The only character I found remotely watchable was Captain Radic of The Resolute.
Characters have to have that indefinable watchability quotient, otherwise they don't engage and we don't care about them. He had it, the others don't.
The exhaustive effort to make the show realistic and serious only succeeded in making the show unfun to watch.
By definition, a show about interstellar space travel can not and should not try to be "realistic" all the time. The fantasy element has to be allowed to breathe.
The Chariots were cool.
That's it for now. Sorry for going so long.
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up to ep.4
Keeps getting worse.
I feel like I am watching a show on the CW/cable instead of NETFLIX! The 100, for example.
The boy/robot plot is a rip-off of THE IRON GIANT, in case you didn't notice.
The show is 10 minutes of family angst interrupted by a new crisis. Repeat formula. If this was a 2 hr. movie it might make dramatic sense, but 10 eps of this?!
I don't even like the music which is omnipresent and annoying.
Too bad
brm
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I finished watching the series, it was okay, watchable middle-of-the-road stuff.
The young doctor "saving" the trapped kid with actions that doomed everyone else, and only the "bad guy" had a problem with it was absolutely moronic. I genuinely thought she was going to learn a lesson about lost causes and doing the right thing. Nah.
The family became slightly irritating by the end, in that many of their actions endangered the entire group of people trapped there and they came across as a little pious.
I did like the family though, decent actors and i thought the chemistry between them grew. The younger actors were very decent. I did like Han West too. He had charm. The lass was good as the creepy baddie Smith too. Well cast.
The look of the production was mostly excellent. The music was okay, sometimes sounded pretty good, one track kind of sounded like it was slightly temped with Edward Scissorhands for about ten seconds.
The major problem was that even during the urgent moments nothing really seemed urgent, it was all rather flat, and when people had to hurry, they still just walked and had a bit of a light-hearted chat.
The interesting problem of having to silently mine fuel from a giant cave of sleeping apex predators was a great set-up (felt like Pitch Black in a way), solved by just having almost every colonist simply mine the fuel, with very little sense of danger. And then when the apex predators are alerted they prove themselves to be the least apex of all predators, killing no one that i could tell.
The fuel-eating eels in earlier episodes were also not dangerous at all when one bloke with a pen-knife could kill them at will.
Pretty much every problem they faced was approached fairly light-heartedly and let's face it, none of them were in any danger anyway.
Also irritating were all the unnecessary secrets people were keeping, which just felt like standard soap opera script-writing stuff. Just to be expected. It got a bit repetitive too. Maybe a few episodes less with more urgency would have made it more compelling.
I'd probably watch another series in the way you have stuff going on in the background while not really being fully invested. It's watchable, i'd just not recommend it to friends.
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LIS Drinking game: Down a shot of whiskey..
Every time a scene ends on a close-up of Dr.Smith smirking 'devilishly' .
DD'ohhhhhh!!!!!
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Jul 3, 2018 - 10:08 PM
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I gave up on the series weeks ago, but decided to finish the last 4 episodes.
Although there were some technical aspects that I liked, I was generally disappointed:
(1) The tone was just too much of a "downer." Because there were so few moments of levity, I didn't find the series enjoyable. (Which is not necessarily a problem, as many productions go for a more serious tone; however, I didn't find it interesting either.) Character victories were few, and things just plodded along from one crisis to the next.
(2) The screenplay relied way too much on "serious" conversations between (almost always) a pair of characters. These conversations slowed down the pacing too much, often deadening the momentum of more action-oriented sequences. Worse, the conversations were too transparent and came across as obvious "character development."
(3) Just as the conversation scenes appeared forced, plot developments also seemed forced and not emerging organically from previous events. Often, "drama" was created by characters just being suddenly stupid or characters not sharing critical information with other characters.
(4) The character of Dr. Smith was botched in my opinion. Trying to replicate Jonathan Harris' interpretation would have probably been a mistake, but the flat-affect, psychotic interpretation here (I blame the script more than I would blame this usually very good actress) made the character tediously boring and pathetic.
(5) There was too much contrivance, certainly in plot but mainly in characterization. For example, when the screenplay needs the children to be super-intelligent and precocious, they save the day with their problem-solving prowess and have very "serious" and "meaningful" conversations (saying things that only an adult screenwriter would say). When the screenplay needs something to go wrong, the children are suddenly rash, not listening to authority, and (constantly) keeping things from their parents.
Sorry to be on the negative side here. The producers had a tough job meeting expectations of both fans of the old series and younger viewers, most of whom would not have enjoyed the often silly Irwin Allen show. I hope others found some value in this series, but unfortunately, I found the tone, characters, and dialogue to be very unlikable.
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"When the screenplay needs something to go wrong..."
This is exactly what it felt like on too many occasions.
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Mild Episode 2 spoiler. The show isn't bad, but it is disappointing (for me) in that the tone is so different from the original series.
Like the original series, it's supposed to be lightweight adventure aimed at the whole family.
I was hoping for "lightweight," but it's not! Every time two people interact, it's trying to be "serious" and "meaningful." Personal conflict abounds. (You see, that makes it "important.") I want to scream at them not to talk to one another! Action is constantly interrupted by two characters having a conversation that's insulting in its efforts to hammer home some obvious "character development."
Will and the Robot playing catch? Think about how the old series would have handled that. Here, it's a chance for John Robinson to realize he's been a terrible dad.
Can't we just have a grand old adventure? Three episodes in, I don't wish that I were part of the Robinson family - I'm left wondering how they qualified for this mission in the first place with all of the emotional stuff coming out. I don't remember characters in the original series having PTSD! I guess that makes this new show more "realistic" and "important."
Finally, I wouldn't agree that it's aimed at the whole family. There is light cussing: a-hole, son of a b-tch, etc. There is also violence and one character certainly does some vile things. Both of my kids liked the original series, but my younger child is going to have to wait for this one....
Well the final two eps finally got.the tone right; a grand old adventure.IEight eps of grim survivalism on.a savage planet had me doing other things and barely paying attention. When I saw they were going to finally try and leave I perked up.
A liitle to late but at least I got some entertainment and FUN at the end.
Brm
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Spoiler alert: The Robinson family gets lost in space. Sorry to give anything away.
Spoiler Alert! Not by themselves in this version.
Yeah .
At the end it looked like they were setting up season two as just about the Robinsons. My heart sank when they appeared to be rescued .....only to say pull a switch.
Hopefully next season gets back to just the one family.
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