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 Posted:   Apr 24, 2018 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

There you go joan.
The last one we seemed to have was on the wrong side and incorporated both plot and music discussion.

I felt a bit like in Planes trains when that couple are screaming at us "Youre going the wrong way!" wink


Ep 1
Nice GBU homage. Humans - even some women in heels - balancing a- la Tuco on graveyard crosses! smile

They also had the theme that is a nod to fred karlin's original gunfighter theme slipped in when Ed Harris is repairing his wounds.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2018 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I didn't pick up Karlin's theme. My bad.

This episode played with time. There is Bernard on a island with soldiers trying to keep the fact that he is a robot hidden. Then we flash back Bernard and the events at the party and then back to the island. I thought it was a good episode. Bernard seems to need robot injections which will become important, I think.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Who is? And who isnt?

Interesting that they didnt show the robots implied running riot massacre - merely the aftermath.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I'll be awaiting the Blu-ray set, so I'm only looking at threads for episode one, once it's episode two onwards, it's embargo time. I wonder when the set will go one sale? I'm thinking around August, & before I view it I'll look at season one again. I thought it was the best thing I've seen on TV for ages.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2018 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Well? Episode 2?

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2018 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Well, Bill, what is your take on episode 2?

Total Spoilers next. Jumping back and forth in time is a bit confusing in places.

However, I kept noting that William (young and older) constantly referred to a "bigger picture." That comes up a lot. He puts down the notion that the robots who seem VERY human were designed simply for human pleasure or to be subjected to humans' baser fantasies.

So what is that bigger picture? I have an idea. They are built and tested so that humans can achieve immortality. Before humans die, their consciousness will downloaded into a younger robot version of themselves, and therefore they can continue living. Just a thought about that bigger picture.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2018 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Ah ha, could be joanie.
I wasnt sure what i felt about ep2. Like you im a bit battered by the back n forth timeline. Tbh i hate back story and time switches in anything. Whenever im watching a scene where they show you someone dying then go "three days before..." i am groaning to myself "oh f**k" - im just so bored and irritated by timeline switches.
Its still very watchable, altho i think the concept of it and what it promises - its potential - is probably more appealing than what it has delivered so far.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2018 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Is it just me, or is Season 2 a bit flat so far? Maybe it's just my high expectations after such an exceptional first season, but I find myself not as engaged as I should be at this point. 3 episodes in...and not much is resonating.

I dig the buffalo in the revised title sequence!

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2018 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I thought the first 2 episodes in season 2 were powerful, but the third episode didn't do much for me. I still have lots of unanswered questions.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Im kinda with dave on this.
A guess a robot/human war is brewing at some point (if its at walking dead pace it could be 10 seasons away!) And weve had one skirmish already. but it all seems a bit aimless and meandering so far.
Then we get an additional India-world and a woman fighting a tiger.
And they had a way of checking that the boss girl is human but not a way of checking Bernard?

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)


And they had a way of checking that the boss girl is human but not a way of checking Bernard?


They were going to scan Bernard, when they found him on the beach, but someone (who thinks Bernard is human) recognised him and they didn't check him after that.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I quite enjoyed series one of this (although I have to admit, there were times when I only hung in there cos of Dolores = swoooooon) and I haven't watched any of series 2 yet, but I wonder if it's suffering (like Walking Dead to some extent) because viewers are now spoilt by the likes of Netflix, Amazon and even Channel 4 box set series deals, where they can watch an episode or two and then plough through the whole thing if they like it.
Maybe the days of waiting a year to 18 months to catch the next series is passing us by?
I don't know anyone who's been enjoying this new series (from listening mainly to the peeps in work), with comments ranging from 'I hate the different/confusing time lines' to 'they left it too long between series'.
Quite a few have abandoned it after only the first 3 episodes!!

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)


And they had a way of checking that the boss girl is human but not a way of checking Bernard?


They were going to scan Bernard, when they found him on the beach, but someone (who thinks Bernard is human) recognised him and they didn't check him after that.


Oh ok. Thanks for that. I seem to recall them finding him but not why he wasnt checked.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Ok whats the verdict so far?
Just had the samourai world episode.

Its good series but a bit disjointed. Or at least the direction seems like a pinball.
Im finding im a bit bored/less engaged than series 1.
Cant quite put my finger on why.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I think everyone's left, Bill.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Ok whats the verdict so far?
Just had the samourai world episode.

Its good series but a bit disjointed. Or at least the direction seems like a pinball.
Im finding im a bit bored/less engaged than series 1.
Cant quite put my finger on why.


Yep. Same here. And it was annoying that episode 4 had a big reveal at the end regarding William’s daughter, but that storyline isn’t in episode 5. It just feels like we’re wandering around the park slowly getting to some sort of conclusion, and I’m just not caring a whole lot. There is a lack of...something...

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yes, it all does seem a bit disjointed. I get confused by the jumps in time.

I want the series to get back to Bernard. Seems that he is a robot who needs '"cognitive" injections, and his flashes of memory tend to confuse me. He seems to help people and then flashes back to where the "white" robots kill people on his orders. Still confused. Charlotte knows something, but she seems not to realize Bernard is robot, and that doesn't make sense to me. It does wander around.

In the samurai episode, a VERY familiar song was played by the orchestra for quite a while. I think it was Paint It Black by Rolling Stones. Am I correct?

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)


In the samurai episode, a VERY familiar song was played by the orchestra for quite a while. I think it was Paint It Black by Rolling Stones. Am I correct?


Yes.



 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

If you recall, another, faster version of paint it black was in the western section in series one. Samourai paint it black was that quirky, slow-tempo version.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2018 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Thanks, pzfan. Bill, I don't remember the song in season 1. Duh, getting old.

 
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