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 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Praxinoscope   (Member)

I can't say I'm surprised but still...

https://theoutline.com/post/4265/music-downloads-declining?zd=2&zi=lhaugj3d

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Kind of hard to believe, but I personally would love if CDs and vinyl ruled the day again.

But the cat's already out of the bag, music is free is the eyes of this generation. I have read (and experienced) that many people today look at people having anything to do with music as basically hobbyists whom deserve a "ha ha what do you REALLY do?"


I have my own problems with mp3s (I don't like them, and it's hard for me when releasing new music to offer it on mp3).

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

But it's teh futurzs!!1!

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

We're almost further away from the first year of the iTunes Music Store than *it* was from the first CDs. 17 years before the iTMS, LPs ruled.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm more than happy to download when available in lossless or 320kbps minimum. I have CDs, too many of them, storage is a major problem.

Despite the recent uplift in music revenues, revenues for 2017 are still only 68.4% of the market's peak in 1999.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   KeoNato   (Member)

As a member of the generation that’s killing music downloads and CD’s — streaming is just easier, cheaper, and more manageable when you don’t have a lot of room to store hundreds of CD’s.

You lose something in the quality, for sure, but the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   jwb79   (Member)

confused

Fake news: Apple isn't killing iTunes music downloads
https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/03/30/fake-news-apple-isnt-killing-itunes-music-downloads

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

We're getting closer and closer to the dream of our corporate overlords...which is that you can never "own" music or movies, you can only "rent" them.
To me, besides quality, the number one most important feature of any format is that it can never be taken away from me or made unavailable to me once I have paid a fee. Vinyl and cassettes were imperfect because they were so fragile and prone to damage. CDs are the best so far, if not perfect, particularly if you can back them up on hard drives. (In my case, on multiple hard drives and an off-site location). Downloads were a second choice largely because the quality was poor (mp3s suck), but at least you could search out lossless versions. I was prepared to endure downloads if I could get lossless, but streaming only? No thanks.

If you think about it, corporations have all too often been the worst protectors of their own intellectual properties. By jealously guarding the only extant copies of movies and musical recordings, they have contributed to the permanent loss of many of these irreplaceable treasures when bankruptcy, disaster, or just plain indifference has caused them to be lost. Sometimes the acquisition of copies of these items by the general public is the only thing that has saved them. Many people who think they have "bought" music or movies and are storing them in a cloud somewhere are going to be in for a rude awakening when the owners of said cloud decide they can't or won't keep them available any more.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

But it's teh futurzs!!1!

verily it must be true if it's on the internet and FSM message boarders are taking it seriously !!!

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

We're almost further away from the first year of the iTunes Music Store than *it* was from the first CDs.

Yeeesh! You're playing with my head!

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2018 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

We're almost further away from the first year of the iTunes Music Store than *it* was from the first CDs.

Yeeesh! You're playing with my head!



Actually, in just a mere 10 days we'll pass that line! Than the time between now and the release of iTunes (on January 10, 2001) will surpass the gap between iTunes and the release of the first CD-player (October 1, 1982).


On topic: although I like to buy my music, preferably lossless or high-res, most of my new 'acquisitions' are through Apple music. Nowadays it's more likely for me to sample an album streaming and then deciding if it's worth the buy. (The only exceptions being Black Panther and Avengers, which I bought after seeing the film.) Quit happy about that. Otherwise I would have spend blind money on that horrendous – for the sake of Zeus – Elfman's Justice league.

Right now, I'm listening to Jackman's Kong, which I find enjoyable. But I would never spend more on it then I'm paying for my Apple Music subscription. I rather spend the rest of my precious earnings on something I more special, like Alien 3.

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2018 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZubZ5BU9nrg

 
 
 Posted:   May 10, 2018 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

In response to the question in the OP, I don't think we're seeing the end of downloads. There is room in the market for all platforms.

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   stringbean   (Member)



Posted by KeoNato.

As a member of the generation that’s killing music downloads and CD’s — streaming is just easier, cheaper, and more manageable when you don’t have a lot of room to store hundreds of CD’s.

You lose something in the quality, for sure, but the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.


.....and there you have it folks, in plain bold as brass english. The younger generation are happy to sacrifice quality over convenience. They don't even hide the fact any more and even seem proud of it.

Now if you'll excuse me while I pick a wonderful CD sountrack from my collection and pop it into the ageing but quality Technics CD player. Pure bliss.

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

While I never had any interest in streaming because I don't listen to music on my computer or phone and it is easier to check samples on Youtube if I have to do that, but that doesn't seem any worse than the low-quality files that Itunes and Amazon are offering.

Now, lossless downloads is something completely different. I do no think that it competes in any way with streaming.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

As a member of the generation that’s killing music downloads and CD’s — streaming is just easier, cheaper, and more manageable when you don’t have a lot of room to store hundreds of CD’s.

You lose something in the quality, for sure, but the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.


But the selection is shit.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)



Now if you'll excuse me while I pick a wonderful CD sountrack from my collection and pop it into the ageing but quality Technics CD player. Pure bliss.



I’d love to see you perform in a blind test.

 
 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   KeoNato   (Member)


.....and there you have it folks, in plain bold as brass english. The younger generation are happy to sacrifice quality over convenience. They don't even hide the fact any more and even seem proud of it.


We’re not proud. We’re massively in debt. My generation doesn’t buy as many cars or as many houses. We’re killing the credit card industry, too. We’re just more frugal and are willing to sacrifice a marginal bit of sound quality if it saves us a good amount of money.

To each their own, though. I don’t begrudge anyone who wants to go out and buy physical CD’s. It’s not a contest. We can all enjoy music our own way.

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

.....and there you have it folks, in plain bold as brass english. The younger generation are happy to sacrifice quality over convenience. They don't even hide the fact any more and even seem proud of it.

Yeah! Why aren't young people today eager to go further into debt buying more expensive media and equipment? Why aren't young people buying houses, so they can listen to music as loudly as they want, instead of apartments where they have to listen on inferior quiet equipment? I even hear that a lot of young people have something called "roommates" – they actually share a dwelling with one or more people who might not want to listen to them loudly playing music!

What's the matter with kids today?

 
 Posted:   May 12, 2018 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)


.....and there you have it folks, in plain bold as brass english. The younger generation are happy to sacrifice quality over convenience. They don't even hide the fact any more and even seem proud of it.

Now if you'll excuse me while I pick a wonderful CD sountrack from my collection and pop it into the ageing but quality Technics CD player. Pure bliss.


Not buying cds is hardly unique to the younger generation. Ask the average generation Xer or baby boomer when they last bought a cd and odds are it will be sometime in the 1990s. People have always sacrificed quality/efficiency for an inferior product that is cheaper, simpler, or more available, which explains why VHS became the standard over beta, why people still use the "QWERTY" keyboard, and more.

 
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