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 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

While all these James Horner scores are being released and expanded when can we expect Legends of the Fall? And who could release this? My favorite one from him.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

It is my favorite Horner score. Stunningly beautiful.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 9:21 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I love the score but it's already very long and repetitious. I don't think a lot is missing from the OST either. All I remember missing is the bear attack at the end of the movie, and that just flows into the end credits.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

It might not need expanded, but the original is so quiet. Maybe a remaster?

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It is my favorite Horner score. Stunningly beautiful.

Might be mine too. And if Braveheart can get the complete treatment, so can this!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2018 - 10:09 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I wouldn't call the original CD quiet. It's just a gentle score, minus a few appropriately "loud" cues. Remember hearing "To The Boys" in the TV spots??? Fuuuuuhhhhhhhhh

Anyway, where my Pelican Brief expansion at, Stringer?

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Cristian Lee   (Member)

Yes!
My favorite James Horner's score and also in my top ten of all time. An expanded release of this score would be great.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

How much is missing from the current OST album?

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   Cristian Lee   (Member)

How much is missing from the current OST album?

About 30 minutes. Unfortunately from the current OST album it's missing the music when Tristan and Susannah make love and when Susannah visit Tristan in prison.

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 4:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Beautiful score; top 5 Horner for sure. But it needs no new release. The existing one is both perfectly represented and sounding good. It's not like on GLORY, for example, where the quiet parts are really quiet and the loud parts really loud.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Excellent score for sure; have not seen it in a while though. I agree that the current album as is is a very good listen on its own with great musical flow. I never had a problem with the sound either?

I don't know if there is substantial enough music missing that would make me re-buy this score again. But if there's ever an expanded release, I'd check it out.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Excellent score for sure; have not seen it in a while though. I agree that the current album as is is a very good listen on its own with great musical flow. I never had a problem with the sound either?

I don't know if there is substantial enough music missing that would make me re-buy this score again. But if there's ever an expanded release, I'd check it out.


My thoughts as well. One of my all-time favorite scores so I know I'd buy it in a fit of excitement, then when I'm paring it down for portable listens I'll trim the fat and realize I'm left with the OST anyway.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Excellent score for sure; have not seen it in a while though. I agree that the current album as is is a very good listen on its own with great musical flow. I never had a problem with the sound either?

I don't know if there is substantial enough music missing that would make me re-buy this score again. But if there's ever an expanded release, I'd check it out.


My thoughts as well. One of my all-time favorite scores so I know I'd buy it in a fit of excitement, then when I'm paring it down for portable listens I'll trim the fat and realize I'm left with the OST anyway.


I've been doing that so much in the past few years, adding maybe like one or two of the unreleased cues and removing two boring album cues.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

While this wasn't an action score "Samuel's Death" is one of his most exhilarating action cues. Which he lifted and reused in Might Joe Young for good measure.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I've been doing that so much in the past few years, adding maybe like one or two of the unreleased cues and removing two boring album cues.

Or with Goldsmith's Star Trek: Nemesis, adding maybe like ten unreleased cues and removing eight boring album cues. wink

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I've been doing that so much in the past few years, adding maybe like one or two of the unreleased cues and removing two boring album cues.

Or with Goldsmith's Star Trek: Nemesis, adding maybe like ten unreleased cues and removing eight boring album cues. wink

Yavar


Did you post this track list in the Whittlers thread? I'd be curious to see how you worked around the boring cues. It's my least favorite of all the Star Trek scores (OK, IV doesn't do it for me either).

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Did you post this track list in the Whittlers thread? I'd be curious to see how you worked around the boring cues. It's my least favorite of all the Star Trek scores (OK, IV doesn't do it for me either).

It's definitely my least favorite Goldsmith Trek, though its highlights (like the action-packed second half of Odds & Ends, or end credits arrangement of Shinzon's theme) are truly fantastic. I will definitely take it any day over Rosenman's score, or even (though I do like it and consider it somewhat underrated) McCarthy's. Maybe the Giacchino Treks as well, which despite some fantastic highlights (Labor of Love) are overall just a little too overblown for me (fitting the new films well, of course).

To be honest for the best whittling job, I think one has to do editing within tracks as well -- cutting out the first two suspense minutes of Odds & Ends, for example. Not that they're bad really, but they certainly drag down the track.

I did a lazy version where I just cut out all of the tracks I found particularly boring and ended up with about an hour. I may post that tracklist if you're really interested, though an ideal tighter album with more concentrated awesome will take a bit more editing work.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

I've listened to the isolated score and the missing material (about fifteen minutes) is mostly small, connective cues. I'm sure it'll come out eventually but I'm perfectly satisfied with the existing OST (which I generally trim down a little further).

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Did you post this track list in the Whittlers thread? I'd be curious to see how you worked around the boring cues. It's my least favorite of all the Star Trek scores (OK, IV doesn't do it for me either).

It's definitely my least favorite Goldsmith Trek, though its highlights (like the action-packed second half of Odds & Ends, or end credits arrangement of Shinzon's theme) are truly fantastic. I will definitely take it any day over Rosenman's score, or even (though I do like it and consider it somewhat underrated) McCarthy's. Maybe the Giacchino Treks as well, which despite some fantastic highlights (Labor of Love) are overall just a little too overblown for me (fitting the new films well, of course).

To be honest for the best whittling job, I think one has to do editing within tracks as well -- cutting out the first two suspense minutes of Odds & Ends, for example. Not that they're bad really, but they certainly drag down the track.

I did a lazy version where I just cut out all of the tracks I found particularly boring and ended up with about an hour. I may post that tracklist if you're really interested, though an ideal tighter album with more concentrated awesome will take a bit more editing work.

Yavar


God damn it, Yavar, just post the tracklist. Haha I don't know the score well enough to judge you for your omissions. From my listens to it over the years, it's just made me sad how tired and slow it all sounds.

I almost don't even count the Giacchino scores when I'm ranking the Trek scores. I do like the original Star Trek album, though I do miss the "Jehosafats" cue from the expanded version, but the other scores do almost nothing to me (OK, I love the foot chase music in Into Darkness).

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2018 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Ok, I'll post it when I can get around to it. This is a crazy week for me and I have little time at home.

FWIW (and some of these scores near the top are so close that it's really hard, and they might shift from time to time):

TFF > TMP > TUC > TSFS > TWOK > FC > INS > NEM > ST09 > GEN > STB > STID > TVH

I don't really dislike the Giacchino scores but they do relatively little for me, considering how much I often like Giacchino (been a fan ever since the original Medal of Honor). I think Chad Seiter used his main theme in much more interesting ways (in the computer game score) than MG did in any of his three feature scores. The Voyage Home used to be one of my most hated scores of all time (aside from the final cue), but after Intrada put it out in complete form, I warmed up to it a bit.

Yavar

 
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