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 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

He has said he would make it scary like ALIENS. One of the things I love about JURASSIC PARK is that it has an equal amount of horror and wonder. I feel Cameron's would have lacked the wonder. Plus we wouldn't have John Williams' wonderful score. What about you guys?

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I have been having trouble with the search engine and just figured out I started this topic a long time ago. I'm sorry, but feel free to post.smile

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 8:53 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Cameron would've made an incredible JP film I'm sure. He's an expert at pushing cinematic boundaries like Spielberg. Though it would've been a completely different beast. As you said we wouldn't have Williams iconic score nor the sense of child like awe Spielberg brings to his films.

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2018 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

There would have been a few more 'splosions, and bad dialogue.
But on the plus side, it might have had Michael Biehn.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm sure he would have made a great film, but not with the playful 'tableaux' that Spielberg made. But both Spielberg and Cameron are brilliant at absorbing the spectactor in a universe, so they share that aspect.

You could also argue that there would have been no digital effects on the level of JP if Cameron hadn't enhanced that particular technology in films like THE ABYSS and T2. Both directors pushed the boundary with that aspect (you could, of course, also argue that there would have been no ABYSS and T2 effects if the Spielberg-produced YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES hadn't used that particular technology seamlessly first, with the 'live' church window thingie).

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I can't see that it would have been that different, Cameron has a big soft centre just like Spielberg, now maybe a Tarantino Jurassic Park...

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 3:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I can't see that it would have been that different, Cameron has a big soft centre just like Spielberg, now maybe a Tarantino Jurassic Park...

Well, there's already this link in place:

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

All I know is there wouldn't have been the John Williams score.
And while Horner (if he had reconnected with Cameron for that gig...who knows, it coulda been Fiedel and Walker) may have written a decent dinosaur score, I ain't trading the Williams for ANYTHIN'!!

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

All I know is there wouldn't have been the John Williams score.
And while Horner (if he had reconnected with Cameron for that gig...who knows, it coulda been Fiedel and Walker) may have written a decent dinosaur score, I ain't trading the Williams for ANYTHIN'!!


Indeed. It would no doubt have been great (Horner HAS successfully composed music for dinosaurs in the past!), but it would never have been on the level what I consider the greatest score of all time, and obviously my own alltime favourite!

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

All I know is there wouldn't have been the John Williams score.
And while Horner (if he had reconnected with Cameron for that gig...who knows, it coulda been Fiedel and Walker) may have written a decent dinosaur score, I ain't trading the Williams for ANYTHIN'!!


Indeed. It would no doubt have been great (Horner HAS successfully composed music for dinosaurs in the past!), but it would never have been on the level what I consider the greatest score of all time, and obviously my own alltime favourite!


Not fond of Cameron's ear when it comes to scoring his films. Horner would've done a fantastic Dinosaur score for any other director. With Cameron, it would've been lacking.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, because ALIENS, AVATAR and TITANIC are such "lacking" scores. What missed opportunities!

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Yes, because ALIENS, AVATAR and TITANIC are such "lacking" scores. What missed opportunities!

I don't care for Aliens other than a few cues near the end. As I already discussed Avatar and Titanic are very "sterile" and lack the emotional punch of his orchestral scores. Avatar and Titanic are well constructed but really just serviceable. Most importantly he could've written much better scores for those films. They could easily be replaced. And it's just not the Horner collaboration, I can't think of a score in a Cameron film that I really like much less love. Horner's efforts are the best, but then again it's Horner.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I can see him making it very intense like Aliens. I still chuckle when I recall seeing Aliens with the wife and another couple back in ’86. The wife in that couple nearly bailed on us, it was so intense.

Where Spielberg hinted at the visceral stuff (other than a leg here, an arm there a couple of times), I can visualize Cameron’s take on what happens to folks whom encounter a T. Rex or Velociraptors. Would he have toned it down to make it a family blockbuster?
Shucks, let’s add Biehn, Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton to the cast as well! Paxton could have been screaming expletives and blasting away with his weapon at the T. Rex as he disappeared down its maw.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, because ALIENS, AVATAR and TITANIC are such "lacking" scores. What missed opportunities!

I don't care for Aliens other than a few cues near the end. As I already discussed Avatar and Titanic are very "sterile" and lack the emotional punch of his orchestral scores. Avatar and Titanic are well constructed but really just serviceable. Most importantly he could've written much better scores for those films. They could easily be replaced. And it's just not the Horner collaboration, I can't think of a score in a Cameron film that I really like much less love. Horner's efforts are the best, but then again it's Horner.


We'd surely have a heated discussion if we ever met in real life, since AVATAR is my number 2 Horner and ALIENS my number 3 (both after BOY IN THE STRIPED PYJAMAS). TITANIC probably features in, or close to, the Top 10 as well. big grin

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Yes, because ALIENS, AVATAR and TITANIC are such "lacking" scores. What missed opportunities!

I don't care for Aliens other than a few cues near the end. As I already discussed Avatar and Titanic are very "sterile" and lack the emotional punch of his orchestral scores. Avatar and Titanic are well constructed but really just serviceable. Most importantly he could've written much better scores for those films. They could easily be replaced. And it's just not the Horner collaboration, I can't think of a score in a Cameron film that I really like much less love. Horner's efforts are the best, but then again it's Horner.


We'd surely have a heated discussion if we ever met in real life, since AVATAR is my number 2 Horner and ALIENS my number 3 (both after BOY IN THE STRIPED PYJAMAS). TITANIC probably features in, or close to, the Top 10 as well. big grin


Avatar and Titanic are very good "new age" scores. They've grown on me a lot over the years, but they just don't resonate with me like Glory; American Tail; Land Before Time; ST:2; Rocketeer; Zorro, etc.
Same is true of Goldsmith's work, I much prefer his orchestral works over his electronic ones.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

"New Age"?! They've got plenty of aggressive, dissonant material. In fact, that makes up a considerable portion of the scores. Or lush symphonic themes and textures. But yes -- my favourite parts of AVATAR, in particular, are the ethereal, magical bits.

We wholeheartedly agree on Goldsmith, though. I can't stand his electronic "noodlings".

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Cameron only directs films beginning with T or A so JP wouldn't fit in with his filmography.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Cameron only directs films beginning with T or A so JP wouldn't fit in with his filmography.

Yes, Cameron is all about the T&A.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Cameron only directs films beginning with T or A so JP wouldn't fit in with his filmography.

Yes, Cameron is all about the T&A.


Tango, I always enjoy your posts! Especially when you inspired me to complete my John Williams collection.smile

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2018 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Shucks, let’s add Biehn, Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton to the cast as well! Paxton could have been screaming expletives and blasting away with his weapon at the T. Rex as he disappeared down its maw.


I'll say this for Hicks:
He was a chronic whiner, but he went out like a man!

 
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