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 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5912663/Transsexual-model-makes-history-representing-Spain-Miss-Universe-contest.html

Holy mother of dragons!
Aren't there some other beautiful women in Spain? Women!smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I was going to make a comment about the dummy in the middle but that was actually pretty good. Still not watching though.

C'mon solium - not nice. I can't recall any female on this board calling a man a dummy or anything of the sort.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5912663/Transsexual-model-makes-history-representing-Spain-Miss-Universe-contest.html

Holy mother of dragons!
Aren't there some other beautiful women in Spain? Women!smile


A transsexual is not a woman, and I've never seen an attractive one, no matter how often people say they have.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I was going to make a comment about the dummy in the middle but that was actually pretty good. Still not watching though.

C'mon solium - not nice. I can't recall any female on this board calling a man a dummy or anything of the sort.


Sorry it was a joke I couldn't resist. And like I said, I'm impressed with her talent so she got the last laugh.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Wait a second.
I can make a joke about someone only if they are the same gender as me?
Sorry, I ain't having that.

Come on Eee-Dee, Sol wasn't making a joke about anyone on the board in the first place.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Wait a second.
I can make a joke about someone only if they are the same gender as me?
Sorry, I ain't having that.


I now retract my apology. Thanks Oct!

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Wait a second.
I can make a joke about someone only if they are the same gender as me?
Sorry, I ain't having that.

Come on Eee-Dee, Sol wasn't making a joke about anyone on the board in the first place.


Come on Oct, I didn't say sol called anyone on the board a dummy. I read his comment as calling the woman in the middle a dummy. I was responding by saying that I don't recall any female here calling a man a dummy. If you read my comment again I said "a man", not "a man on the board." Please re-read.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Wait a second.
I can make a joke about someone only if they are the same gender as me?
Sorry, I ain't having that.

Come on Eee-Dee, Sol wasn't making a joke about anyone on the board in the first place.


Come on Oct, I didn't say sol called anyone on the board a dummy. I read his comment as calling the woman in the middle a dummy. I was responding by saying that I don't recall any female here calling a man a dummy. If you read my comment again I said "a man", not "a man on the board." Please re-read.


But you could, and I not only wouldn't I take offense, I'd probably agree with you. Anyway, we don't need to go any further with this discussion.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Come on Oct, I didn't say sol called anyone on the board a dummy. I read his comment as calling the woman in the middle a dummy. I was responding by saying that I don't recall any female here calling a man a dummy. If you read my comment again I said "a man", not "a man on the board." Please re-read.

Edit: I guess I don't find calling anyone a dummy funny.



I know that you didn't call any man here a dummy. But neither did Sol.
He made a joke about someone who was parading themselves on a silly TV show, but your comment transposed that into making a joke about someone "here".
So how many ways can the word "here" be interpreted? One, as far as I can tell.

Not to put too fine a point on the whole thing, but a joke about a ventriloquist can't be made unless the word "dummy" is used.
It's textbook vaudeville.
smile

EDIT:
I see that Sol was not going to bother with this further.
So neither am I.
Group hug.
big grin

EDIT again:
Eee-Dee, you are right. I saw that your original comment did not include the words "here" or "board", so scrub the applicable parts of my comments. My apologies for that aspect.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:46 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Wait a second.
I can make a joke about someone only if they are the same gender as me?
Sorry, I ain't having that.

Come on Eee-Dee, Sol wasn't making a joke about anyone on the board in the first place.


Come on Oct, I didn't say sol called anyone on the board a dummy. I read his comment as calling the woman in the middle a dummy. I was responding by saying that I don't recall any female here calling a man a dummy. If you read my comment again I said "a man", not "a man on the board." Please re-read.


But you could, and I not only wouldn't I take offense, I'd probably agree with you. Anyway, we don't need to go any further with this discussion.


Agreed - love you both still. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2018 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Come on Oct, I didn't say sol called anyone on the board a dummy. I read his comment as calling the woman in the middle a dummy. I was responding by saying that I don't recall any female here calling a man a dummy. If you read my comment again I said "a man", not "a man on the board." Please re-read.

Edit: I guess I don't find calling anyone a dummy funny.



I know that you didn't call any man here a dummy. But neither did Sol.
He made a joke about someone who was parading themselves on a silly TV show, but your comment transposed that into making a joke about someone "here".
So how many ways can the word "here" be interpreted? One, as far as I can tell.

Not to put too fine a point on the whole thing, but a joke about a ventriloquist can't be made unless the word "dummy" is used.
It's textbook vaudeville.
smile

Edit: I see that Sol was not going to bother with this further.
So neither am I.
Group hug.
big grin


Group hug - love ya'll

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2018 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Miss America Cara Mund slams pageant, Gretchen Carlson: They 'silenced me, reduced me'
Carly Mallenbaum, USA TODAY Published 1:06 p.m. ET Aug. 17, 2018 | Updated 5:26 p.m. ET Aug. 17, 2018

In a twist of irony, the most recent Miss America winner is accusing the Miss America Organization – one that's recently taken public steps in the name of female-empowerment – of bullying and silencing her.

In a five-page letter addressed to "Miss America Sisters" and obtained by USA TODAY on Friday, Cara Mund, Miss America 2018, calls out Miss America CEO Regina Hopper and chair Gretchen Carlson for having "silenced me, reduced me, marginalized me, and essentially erased me in my role as Miss America in subtle and not-so-subtle ways on a daily basis." Mund hinted at trouble with the organization earlier this month in an interview with Press of Atlantic City.

Mund says she was forced to stick to specific talking points, was "not important enough" to do big interviews – those were reserved for Carlson, and was told that it was Mund's fault sponsors dropped the Miss America Organization.

The Miss America Organization released a statement Friday afternoon in response to Mund's letter.

"It is disappointing that she chose to air her grievances publicly not privately. Her letter contains mischaracterizations and many unfounded accusations. We are reaching out to her privately to address her concerns," says the statement. "The Miss America Organization supports Cara.”

There are examples in Mund's letter that are reminiscent of the "Mean Girls" movie: Gretchen Carlson and Regina Hopper, like the Gretchen and Regina in the film, criticized Mund's clothes, mispronounced her name and spread misinformation about her, Mund says.

"The rhetoric about empowering women, and openness and transparency, is great; however, the reality is quite different. I am living that difference," writes Mund, who adds that her treatment in the organization, which crowned her in Atlantic City, fits the New Jersey definition of "workplace bullying."

Mund says, "Let me be blunt: I strongly believe that my voice is not heard nor wanted by our current leadership; nor do they have any interest in knowing who I am and how my experiences relate to positioning the organization for the future. I truly felt more valued, respected, and viewed as a real collaborator within my first three months rather than these last eight months. The differences in treatment are stark."

In the past year, Carlson, a former Miss America winner and Fox News host, has been vocal about the fact that Miss America is no longer a pageant with a swimsuit portion. She has also been promoting her book about stopping harassment, called "Be Fierce."

USA TODAY has reached out to representatives for Carlson for a statement.

The 2019 Miss America Competition will broadcast live on Sept. 9 on ABC.

 
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