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 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has apparently found something intriguing on Mars, and the space agency will unveil the discovery today (June 7).

The space agency revealed few details about what will be announced today, but the "live discussion" will feature "new science results from NASA's Mars Curiosity rover," according to a NASA announcement. Why all the secrecy? "The results are embargoed by the journal Science until then," NASA wrote in the statement.

That means NASA won't release any details until the news conference, which is scheduled for 2 p.m. EDT (1800 GMT)



Source:
https://www.space.com/40792-nasa-mars-rover-curiosity-announcement-june-2018.html

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Something found on mars?
Its not westerns that arent real westerns, is it?!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Some thing found on Mars?

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Good one.
And dedicated to Rory.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

"Get your hands off of me, you damned dirty microbe!"

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)



Was it Bill Carson? Maybe he got lost coming to America.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Oh, even bigger microbes? More evidence of water?

You know that's what it will be along the lines of. In other words: boring.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Methanogens on Mars? What does James Lovelock say? You will get the rover to go fetch a stick with enthusiasm before finding a life process that has evolved independently of the earth but with the same biological exactitude as happened here.

The seasonal spikes they've been so excited about have got to be rock based chemistry in action. Tell me the probabilities on each count. I don't even have to guess which one will be the more likely cause.

Edit: If only they could find some fancy ants underneath those rocks and stones! But, if you told me some form of life is/was there as a fact, it would be the hardest thing ever to swallow. There are so many questions that would need answering, the most obvious being what concentration of one time biomass remnant would have to be left lying around in order to establish life at least became kick-started on that planet at some time in the past? And if plate tectonics were a prerequisite for life to begin on earth, how can life begin on a planet where fossils can't even exist because there are no plate tectonics? When and if INSIGHT reaches the planet and places its quantitative electronic ear against the surface, I think what we'll see is a core which has largely leaked out through the entire strata because of a very heavy concussive history, with all the implications that go with that.

Even if there was a large body of water on Mars (without any associated life) that could be established beyond a reasonable doubt, the money is well spent. Because then all eyes would be turned back to earth with new found wonderment.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Oh, even bigger microbes? More evidence of water?

You know that's what it will be along the lines of. In other words: boring.


Methane can only mean one thing...Martian cows! Pew!

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Still no smoking gun. frown

The information regarding methane is nothing new and unless they actually find "life" on Mars, geology is the strongest explanation for it's source.

I suppose the discovery of organics is significant, it means there was a food supply for microbial life to feed off of. It confirms Mars isn't completely sterile.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Was it Bill Carson? Maybe he got lost coming to America.

Good one edw. Savage but a good one wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Was it Bill Carson? Maybe he got lost coming to America.

Good one edw. Savage but a good one wink


Oh Bill, no savagery intended. My friend joan and I are crushed that you haven't arrived yet. It's the result of staggering disappointment. frown

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

If Martians were British they'd be flying on the wrong side of the sky.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

This guy has done a good job of summarising a good many points outlining public perception of Mars in recent years:

http://www.science20.com/robert_inventor/blog/might_there_be_microbes_on_the_surface_of_mars-115808

He mentions Jim Lovelock. If anyone comes across an up to date response from Lovelock regarding these latest NASA revelations before I do, PLEASE include a link here.

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

If Martians were British they'd be flying on the wrong side of the sky.

Good one but the right side for them. smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

When it comes to navigation on earth AND in space, the lights are Red on the Left and Green on the Right. Assuming your own red light is to your left, if you look to your left and you see Red, the object is moving in the opposite direction to yourself. The same is exactly true for an observer in the object you can see. If you look to your left and you see Green, the object is moving in the same direction as yourself.

Just think "Port is Red (port side) and Left, Green is Star (starboard side) and Right.

When Titanic was sinking, the watch officers of the Californian could see the stricken ship, way off in the distance. In addition to the rows of portholes running along the length of Titanic's side, they could see the unique navigation lights situated on the level of the flying bridge, one on each side. When Titanic's massive engines were stopped, the watchmen on the Californian saw the red and green lights alternately coming from Titanic. That means Titanic spun around in an arc after the iceberg collision, with respect to their viewpoint. It appears that captain Lord first saw Titanic's green starboard light from the Californian before retiring for the night, but that the watch officers later saw a red light. Since both ships were both initially moving westwards, this gives provisional information concerning their respective headings and goes to show how important navigation lights on ships, planes and spacecraft actually are. The Californian observers also noticed something else about Titanic. As the ship's stern rose higher and higher, with the bow dipping lower and lower below the surface, those rows of portholes assumed a very "peculiar" angle to the horizontal surface of the sea, leaving them feeling something was not right. Obviously, they realised the 'big' ship they could see several miles away could be sinking in front of their very eyes.

The captain of the Californian was blamed for not going to Titanic's immediate aide, however, he had stopped his ship for the night because it was completely surrounded by ice. If only Titanic had done the same?

Edit: There is this Wikipedia entry on the Titanic/Californian story. I forgot to mention the Californian watch officers also clearly saw Titanic's Distress Rockets. It seems the Californian's inaction was down to perceived risk to the ship had it got under way in those prevailing conditions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Californian

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

When it comes to navigation on earth AND in space, the lights are Red on the Left and Green on the Right. If you look to your left and you see Red, the object is moving in the opposite direction to yourself. The same is exactly true to an observer in the object you can see. If you look to your left and you see Green, the object is moving in the same direction as yourself.

Just think "Port is Red (port side) and Left, Green is Star (starboard side) and Right.



The way I was told to remember the left and right is as follows- "left", "port" and "red" have less letters than "right", "starboard", "green". wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The way I was told to remember the left and right is as follows- "left", "port" and "red" have less letters than "right", "starboard", "green". wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

The way I was told to remember the left and right is as follows- "left", "port" and "red" have less letters than "right", "starboard", "green". wink

Or, "We have no red port left."

 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2018 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The way I was told to remember the left and right is as follows- "left", "port" and "red" have less letters than "right", "starboard", "green". wink

Or, "We have no red port left."


Ah, now THAT is a real disaster!

 
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