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 Posted:   Jun 14, 2018 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Just wondering if anyone has a list of the titles that are both manufactured by Sony Classical in Europe and Amazon in the States and which, if any, of the Sony CDs are out of print?

 
 Posted:   Jun 14, 2018 - 10:17 PM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

All scores from Sony Classical US are CD-R's since last year

 
 Posted:   Jun 15, 2018 - 4:16 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

All scores from Sony Classical US are CD-R's since last year

Thanks so from the start of 2017 or from mid 2017? And its only Sony Classical that produce CDrs in the U.S. and properly pressed CDs in Europe?

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2018 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Mr Hand   (Member)

Check this topic (in French but should be manageable) : http://www.underscores.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3980

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2018 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   RustyNail   (Member)

"All scores from Sony Classical US are CD-R's since last year"

Not quite true

From 2017
The Post
Murder on the Orient Express
Emoji Movie
The Dark Tower
Spider-Man: Homecoming
War for the Planet of the Apes

Were all pressed discs and was this years Tomb Raider, but from the looks of things that may be the last one for a while.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2018 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Thanks for the info everyone.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2019 - 4:42 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Subject changed.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2019 - 12:57 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I bought The World of Hans Zimmer from a US online store and unfortunately it's also a CD-R. I hope the European release is a regular pressed CD.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2019 - 1:17 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

Yes, it is a pressed CD. I have this EU version.

Don't buy US releases from Sony !

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2019 - 1:18 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

Yes, it is a pressed CD. I have this EU version.

Great, thanks! Is the EU edition in a digipack or in a jewel case?

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2019 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Far more important list would be to list releases that are actually available in both versions - since in many cases it is not that easy to find out if something is available as EU pressed disc or an imported CD-R.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2019 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

But I don't have seen any CD-R releases by Sony Classical on the EU market and made in EU (I'm not talking about Import CDs). And I'm buying a lot of Sony CDs, directly in my country from physical outlets as Media Markt for example, not as Import or something. IF Sony release is only available as a CD-R (like Tyler's Yellowstone, for example), they remove album from the store just before the premiere, and is not available to buy. Then I must go to Amazon and find import from US, but then I know that is available only as a CD-R, because it's not available in my country.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2019 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

Is the EU edition in a digipack or in a jewel case?

Jewel case. 3-fold digipack is a "Limited Tour Edition" release only, available directly on merch store during the concert. Only.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Question. There is there any thread topic that talks about why CD-are are bad? I got a Star Trek Voyager GNP and its a CD-R. What’s bad about them? All I can recall is that they expire quickly. Any issues in sound quality?

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 3:30 PM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Question. There is there any thread topic that talks about why CD-are are bad? I got a Star Trek Voyager GNP and its a CD-R. What’s bad about them? All I can recall is that they expire quickly. Any issues in sound quality?

The reputation stems from the past. Earlier CDRs had a bad reputation when it came to compatibility and longevity.
In the mid 90s there were still some CD players out there that would not recognize or play CDRs properly. Also Pressed CDs were said to last 120 years or so while CDRs claimed to last only 20-40 years, whith many actually only lasting 1-2 years in reality. CDRs have made significant improvements in reliabilty, but they still carry the stigma of being unofficial as many CDRs were used to make "buutleggs". Collectors prefer the pressed disc, becuause it's associated with being authentic or legit. There are other things too like there being no trade or resell value for CDRs, which would be a big deal for collectors.

Personally I prefer the pressed CD, and will now only order Sony releases from Amazon UK or DE.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

I bought The World of Hans Zimmer from a US online store and unfortunately it's also a CD-R. I hope the European release is a regular pressed CD.

Ditto. I was kind of shocked. I mean I could have done a better job with my inkjet printer at home.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Thanks for answering that T.J. And it would seem that the CD-R I got is one of the newer ones. It's not overly purple and the coded area is not as obvious. If there's no real difference in quality from the actual pressed CD and this, that resell bit is the only concern. I never thought about it that way. It makes sense that someone would probably be peeved about knowing that a CD they got was CD-R even if it was official.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Question. There is there any thread topic that talks about why CD-are are bad? I got a Star Trek Voyager GNP and its a CD-R. What’s bad about them? All I can recall is that they expire quickly. Any issues in sound quality?

The bias probably stemmed originally, and justifiably, from the difference in how the two discs are authored. Pressed discs have data stamped directly onto the bottom polycarbonate layer; it's literally etched into plastic and is extremely precise. Recordable discs have a dye layer between the bottom polycarbonate layer and the foil layer, and data is written (or "burned") into the dye in a somewhat sloppy manner. This relative imprecision is technically why they're less reliable, and is even more true for DVD because it holds more information which allows for less space between the data tracks. Hence the greater failure rate, traditionally.

For me it's less about longevity "stats" and more about the variables that can lead to too many questions. What's the quality of the blank disc? The quality of the drive? The burn speed? "Professional" CD-Rs are not likely to favor the customer on any of these points. With pressed discs none of them are concerns in the first place.

However, to be totally fair, I have many CD-Rs that are 20 years old and still play fine the last time I checked. There's less of a chance that they'll "go bad" compared to DVD-R because of the lower data capacity. And I've heard of some anecdotal evidence that, believe it or not, after decades of experience now in the real world the truth is... recorded discs might be the ones that last longer.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   Grendel25   (Member)

I've noticed that Amazon used to list the Sony CD-R's as being manufactured on demand so you knew that they were CD-R's and now they don't do that which is very misleading.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2020 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I've noticed that Amazon used to list the Sony CD-R's as being manufactured on demand so you knew that they were CD-R's and now they don't do that which is very misleading.

Yes it is misleading and it always puts me in a bad mood when I get a cdr!

 
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