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 Posted:   Dec 16, 2018 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Yes! Thank you, CitizenJoe. I could list a copy right now for $30 trillion dollars, but it would prove nothing.

And Jarre Jarre… what experiment exactly is Disney playing here? A reseller has listed his CD for sale. What does Disney have to do with it?

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2018 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


And Jarre Jarre… what experiment exactly is Disney playing here?


The marketing game?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2018 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Score-Man-X   (Member)

I think the general trend away from the CD release is irreversible. So I think we can assume now that all US soundtrack CDs of instrumental film scores are limited releases, if the CD is now marked accordingly(remember the now legendary limited BLADE RUNNER 2049 CD releases vs. the unlimited release in Europe) or not. Not to mention all the scores releases as CD-R, but as a regular CD in Europe (SONY). The return of the LP many years ago was also initiated from Europe. The prejudice that is often associated with Europe, that everything is old and past-oriented there, can prove to be an advantage for soundtrack fans. I could imagine that CDs are still being made in Europe when the rest of the world is just streaming.
It is hard to imagine today that the first VARESE SARABANDE CD's could only be made in Japan.
And if I remember correctly, even Canada was able to produce CDs in front of the USA, if one thinks of all the production notes on the old CDs in the mid-80s. Maybe one day, for lack of alternatives, CD labels like LA-LA LAND RECORDS, VARESE SARABANDE, INTRADA, etc. will eventually have their CDs made in Europe.
Then, in terms of making CDs in the US, the past could be the future ...

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2019 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   davefg   (Member)

Prices for the Ghost Writer (Desplat) are shocking! Perhaps one of the most expensive Varese OOP's?

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2019 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I think the general trend away from the CD release is irreversible.

I am sure that it is. There is really no point why music should be sold via any physical media in these days. Those few people that still buy CDs do it out of habit (because they always have and their equipment is still suited for it), or because the music is not available (in decent quality) otherwise, or because it is cheaper, or because they love to have a shelf filled with booklets to read.

But most people I know dropped the habit of buying CDs years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2019 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Broadway Tunes, the digital store, is also going out of business at the end of the month. So it is not only physical media of niche material that is suffering these days!

http://www.bwaytunes.com/bwayblogs/andy_blog

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2019 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Broadway Tunes, the digital store, is also going out of business at the end of the month. So it is not only physical media of niche material that is suffering these days!

http://www.bwaytunes.com/bwayblogs/andy_blog


Unfortunately true.

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2019 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • And Jarre Jarre… what experiment exactly is Disney playing here? A reseller has listed his CD for sale. What does Disney have to do with it?

    Disney's ploy is beyond resellers. Actually, Disney wants to cut the middle out of that particular middleman. Disney is shifting public craving of their physical wares, slowly but surely*. Try finding their 3D blu-rays in their country of origin or physical CDs of some of their latest blockbuster scores. The rat maze winds ever still...



    *And don't call me "Slowly"...

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     Posted:   May 4, 2019 - 3:28 PM   
     By:   davefg   (Member)

    Shocked to find Avengers: Age of Ultron OOP.

     
     
     Posted:   May 4, 2019 - 4:25 PM   
     By:   Thgil   (Member)

    There is really no point why music should be sold via any physical media in these days.

    Yes there is: So you have it. Period. No licensing issues or businesses going belly up can prevent you from listening to something you've already bought. Unless it's on a physical format you don't own a copy.

     
     
     Posted:   May 4, 2019 - 5:04 PM   
     By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

    There is really no point why music should be sold via any physical media in these days.

    Yes there is: So you have it. Period. No licensing issues or businesses going belly up can prevent you from listening to something you've already bought. Unless it's on a physical format you don't own a copy.


    I absolutely agree !

     
     Posted:   May 4, 2019 - 5:14 PM   
     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

    There is really no point why music should be sold via any physical media in these days.

    Yes there is: So you have it. Period. No licensing issues or businesses going belly up can prevent you from listening to something you've already bought. Unless it's on a physical format you don't own a copy.


    I absolutely agree !


    You can't download an experience.

     
     
     Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 11:45 AM   
     By:   riotengine   (Member)

    I think the general trend away from the CD release is irreversible.

    I am sure that it is. There is really no point why music should be sold via any physical media in these days. Those few people that still buy CDs do it out of habit (because they always have and their equipment is still suited for it), or because the music is not available (in decent quality) otherwise, or because it is cheaper, or because they love to have a shelf filled with booklets to read.

    But most people I know dropped the habit of buying CDs years ago.


    Most people I know still love physical media. My license lasts for the life of the disc.

    Greg Espinoza

     
     Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 12:00 PM   
     By:   Thomas   (Member)

    My local HMV still has a soundtrack section, though it seems to get smaller with each visit. Just the usual array of compilations and the occasional copy of a new release. The classical section is becoming non existent as well. Both sections tucked away in a dark corner of the second floor.

    Most people laugh when I tell them I still buy CDs to be honest.

     
     Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 12:02 PM   
     By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

    My local HMV still has a soundtrack section, though it seems to get smaller with each visit. Just the usual array of compilations and the occasional copy of a new release. The classical section is becoming non existent as well. Both sections tucked away in a dark corner of the second floor.

    Most people laugh when I tell them I still buy CDs to be honest.


    Well over here at ye ol' FSM board we'll always be laughing with you, not at you. Cheers to CDs.

     
     
     Posted:   May 22, 2019 - 8:26 PM   
     By:   BryonDavis   (Member)


    And Jarre Jarre… what experiment exactly is Disney playing here?


    The marketing game?


    The label is deciding to pass on releasing CDs on more and more releases. As a person who made these decisions in the past (many labels I worked with, most prominently Varese) as well as now (my own label along with a number of small label clientele), I can assure you nobody sits around going "let's cut this out to get some extra units sold". A lot of times, that decision is multi-fold. I may have cut out a slow moving Varese release (when I ran sales over there) due to it selling 20 units a year, sometimes I'd cut it out based on overall sell through when we ran out of actual stock. Disney doesn't win when a release is cut out (and Varese too, we were careful to never cut something out unless it was an issue or return vs. expense). They have to take returns on unsold inventory or deal with any remaining stock that never sold. Take John Carter...the movie tanked (strike 1), the label most likely sold it to many accounts based on hype of the film meaning lots of inventory in the system (strike 2) and lastly the decision to cut it out could have been based on a number of factors (they got a bunch of returns which were scrapped or sold to a liquidator, slow sales meant storing that inventory costs money or they sold through whatever they made and decided to not risk spending anymore on new manufacturing - which is also tied to backorders, etc).

    Soundscan plays a big role here as well. If I see we sell a decent amount of physical inventory, we may repress. I know some folks over there and they do tell me that sales just aren't that great for many CD releases. This is why some things are released physically while others aren't or why vinyl may get released and no CD (some labels are doing this now as vinyl is non-returnable). Varese had a large active catalog in it's heyday. All had to be looked at weekly to decide if we had to make more or wait. I have worked with other labels who approach this the same way. Too much inventory means cash sitting around doing nothing and is not a good thing whether you are Disney or a tiny little label.

     
     Posted:   Apr 3, 2021 - 6:42 AM   
     By:   davefg   (Member)

    Both The Hunger Games and Catching Fire by JNH have fallen out of print.

     
     
     Posted:   Apr 3, 2021 - 6:59 AM   
     By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


    Most people laugh when I tell them I still buy CDs to be honest.


    People laugh at me and not just coz I buy CDs. smile

     
     Posted:   Apr 3, 2021 - 4:40 PM   
     By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

    I always figured that the un-expanded A.I. and TOTAL RECALL would be easy to find after the expanded versions came out.

    But no soap!

     
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