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 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

I grew up in 1960's and I always liked some of the
Bond films soundtracks, especially the opening music to
"You Only Live Twice" (with or without Nancy Sinatra).

I've always thought that You Only Live Twice perhaps should have
been nominated for Best Original Song Score or Best Original Music Score
in the 1968 Academy Awards. I am not saying it deserved to win, but I think
this score in underrated. I believe Camelot and Thoroughly Modern Millie
won that year. I guess I'm being delusional. I'll freely admit that the
lyrics to You Only Live Twice were fairly simplistic, but I always thought
that the score was lush, beautiful, and memorable. Maybe the reputation
and genre of the Bond films hurt it. Maybe because John Barry
won the year before for Born Free. I don't know. It's very beautiful music.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

and who cares about Oscars?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

Perhaps then a Grammy ?

An Oscar is worldwide recognition, although I guess if you are
Woody Allen then you don't care.

Point is the score is vastly underrated.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

underrated by whom?

I see your point. My point is f*ck the awards. smile

lyrics simplistic? I take Bricuse over Black any day.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

Well, underrated because it wasn't nominated, again probably because of the
nature of the Bond films.

And underrated because I never hear it on the radio, on TV, or anywhere else
except when Starz replays the Bond films.

But I see your point about the Oscars. In a way, they're like the Kardashians.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 4:10 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

( no message )

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

"This dream is for you, so pay the price
Make one dream come true, you only live twice"

I honestly don't care about the lyrics, but for those who do,
this is not Shakespeare.

Compare to Sondheim, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, "Comedy Tonight" -

No royal curse, no Trojan horse,
And a happy ending, of course!
Goodness and badness,
Panic is madness--
This time it all turns out all right!
Tragedy tomorrow,
Comedy tonight!

"Comedy Tonight" (no Trojan horse) is at least witty, and this is one of Sondheim's
earliest efforts.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

Robbie Williams took a piece of the song for his Millenium hit. Maybe you hear that on radio! smile

but they never nominated Barry for any Bond music... right? This is just another one

I was comparing between Bond lyricists. Sondheim is far beyond

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

The song You Only Live Twice is one of the very best of the Bond songs, I think, and Nancy Sinatra agrees with me. Seriously, the song is very well thought of and finishes high in all of those rank-the-Bond-songs polls. I do think it is so good that I place it alongside Goldfinger and We Have All the Time in the World as the 3 best Bond songs. I think it deserved an Oscar nomination for song, and the score should have been nominated as well. The song was used in the Mad Men finale, and was recently covered by Petra Haden on a Bill Frisell album. Those opening strings!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 6:34 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

You Only Live Twice is a gorgeous song. Pure aural bliss. One of my very favorite Bond songs. Top 5 I'd say.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

It's that fifth chord in the verse--when the strings drop even though it sounds like they should rise. Absolutely, heart-enchantingly beautiful. The best Bond song, IMHO. The movie is kinda meh with all the racism and sexism (though the set design is fantastic) but this theme is just gorgeous.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 9:48 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

You Only Live Twice is a gorgeous song. Pure aural bliss. One of my very favorite Bond songs. Top 5 I'd say.


This.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

Yes, I agree, the best Bond song. Goldfinger (the song and the film) got more notice, but this is superior musically.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2018 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

YOLT was my “first” Bond film and has remained a favourite for story, cast and music since I was taken to see it at the age of 8. Love the model of the Toyota that Bob showed in the other thread. Loved Aki and Kissy more!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2018 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   couvee   (Member)

On the 2-CD set The Best of James Bond 30th anniversary limited edition from 1992 there is a "demo title" for 'You only live twice'. From the booklet; "There are not even any rumors available to describe the next selection included. The Cine-Tele studio logbook cryptically describes it as: "You only live twice (demo title)". It was recorded on January 1, 1966, to be the theme for the Bond film after Thunderball -and that is the extent of our knowledge about it. Even the casual listener will instantly know that it is completely different from the eventual theme: different music, different lyrics, different singer." I don't know why it was not included on the 2003 remastered, expanded edition of You Only Live Twice, but perhaps it was an issue with rights(?).

On the 30th anniv. edition there are also two vocal versions of "Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" one sung by Dionne Warwick and one by Shirley Bassey. Of course, another song became the title song (by Tom Jones) as the producers wanted the title of the film in the song. Although the vocal versions of 'Kiss Kiss Bang Bang' are mentioned in the booklet of the remastered, expanded edition of Thunderball, they were (again) not included. Instead there are two instrumental versions, one in mono (track 18).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2018 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

The Cine-Tele studio logbook cryptically describes it as: "You only live twice (demo title)". It was recorded on January 1, 1966, to be the theme for the Bond film after Thunderball

The demo clearly wasn't recorded two days after the London premiere of Thunderball and seven months before You Only Live Twice started shooting at Pinewood. Has to be an error and 1st January 1967 is far more likely.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2018 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Lukas addressed the YOLT "demo" song directly in the April 2003 issue of FSM. He said it was excluded from the expanded CD for clearance reasons. "Apparently, it was easier to release [in the 30th Anniversary set] before anyone knew what it was."

And Julie Rogers herself has insisted that the song was not a demo, but a fully-intended title song recording. But I can't remember where I saw her saying that.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2018 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

There was a recent issue of Cinema Retro that featured the film You Only Live Twice; this feature included a few pages on the music, with Sinatra, Julie Rogers, Bricusse, etc. chiming in. Rogers states that her performance was intended to be used in the film. (There is an orchestra accompanying her; that doesn't happen in demos.) Sinatra says very nice things about Barry, as does Rogers, and reminisces about the last time she saw him.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   pg1978   (Member)

There is a Wikipedia article on various "The Best of Bond" compilation LP's and CD's.
He gives the complete track listings for the 30th Anniversary album, and the track
listings for the 30th Anniversary Limited Edition (2 disc set) containing the Julie Rogers demo,
as disc 2 track 11. Here's the article -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_of_Bond...James_Bond

Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2018 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   leagolfer   (Member)

YOLW was JB best effort for me it was the most romantic Bond up until that point possibly even further years, cool score.

Barry's development with western romanticism & faux Japanese music is so gorgeous not the usual Bond listen, I loved the way Barry incorporated traditional Japanese instruments & motifs - such a cool mix, creamy composition - played it twice on occasions.

The song very close 2nd to Goldfinger, Sinatra's piece is more the reflective tone, mellower, i like it better as opposed to Bassey's more brassy dynamic number.

You're correct, Bond was a household name far to popular to win any Oscar, call it ignorant on Hollywood whoever it was over looked.

 
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