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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      Non-Film Score Discussion: Films Shot from the Protagonist's POV     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 7:48 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Several years ago, my wife and I were on a Raymond Chandler kick, and we tried to watch the film adaptation of "The Lady in the Lake," circa 1947. Everything is shot from the protagonist's point of view, i.e., the camera shows only what the protagonist sees, so the viewer is in effect the protagonist. We found it annoying, but we tried to go with it. We gave up after about 20 or 30 minutes. Last night, we watched "Dark Passage," and the film starts out using the same technique. I thought, "Oh no, not this again," until I realized there was a specific purpose in doing so for the first quarter or so of the film. It then switched to a more conventional mode of film making. Obviously, this device never caught on, thankfully, but I am wondering if there have been other notable attempts, and if anyone was able to pull it off better than "Lady in the Lake."    Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 7:56 AM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) The recent action flick Hardcore Henry pulled off this gimmick pretty well.    Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 8:14 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) What was that '90s "found footage" movie all the kids liked, but is now completely forgotten? That one. Oh, "The Blair Witch Project"--never saw it, but I'm pretty sure it qualifies.    Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 8:32 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) What was that '90s "found footage" movie all the kids liked, but is now completely forgotten? That one. Oh, "The Blair Witch Project"--never saw it, but I'm pretty sure it qualifies. I saw it at the time. I can't remember much about it, but I don't think the camera was the central figure. That characters may have taken turns shooting the film too. Forgetting details, but I didn't find it as jarring as "Lady in the Lake." But this may have been one of the more successful attempts at this technique.    Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 9:17 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) I don't like any film that relies on gimmicks. Be it POV, Slow-Mo, Shakey Cam. I find it to restrictive and it hurts creativity and in the end the drama on film.    Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 1:39 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) I don't like any film that relies on gimmicks. Be it POV, Slow-Mo, Shakey Cam. I find it to restrictive and it hurts creativity and in the end the drama on film. Not sure it was initially intended as a "gimmick." All of the film devices we now take for granted had to have an origin someplace. I just don't think this particular device works.    Posted:   Oct 13, 2018 - 1:49 PM     By:   That Neil Guy   (Member) Welles worked on a POV version of Heart of Darkness before changing his [deep] focus to Citizen Kane. I think there may be a few test shots extant.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 6:21 AM     By:   jackfu   (Member) Nice topic and excellent points! I think of "Cloverfield" as largely a POV film, using some of the same techniques as TBWP, but I thought it made better use. Like any technique or gimmick, it can quickly get old if it's overused. I think mostly we want to watch films as observers, not participants. POV could be useful in drawing the viewer in and making them feel part of the film, but it's hard to get it right and I can't think of a film that did so, especially when the POV is the central focus of the film. One exception for me is dream sequences/flashbacks. We are usually identifying with the protagonist, yet when they have a dream or flashback, it is almost always shown from the third-person perspective as we saw it happen. Here I think POV might be useful in sharing the protagonist's experience.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 7:44 AM     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member) Wasnt there a jack the ripper film that did a lot of pov with you viewing from Jack's perspective as he did his killings? And in a lot of the hammer films they regularly used pov from the vampire as michael Ripper's buxom wench barmaid first smiled into camera at the vampire... and then screamed!    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 8:49 AM     By:   eriknelson   (Member) Wasnt there a jack the ripper film that did a lot of pov with you viewing from Jack's perspective as he did his killings? And in a lot of the hammer films they regularly used pov from the vampire as michael Ripper's buxom wench barmaid first smiled into camera at the vampire... and then screamed! You may be referring to TIME AFTER TIME when, after the main title, there is a POV sequence featuring the prostitute at Whitechapel before she's killed.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 10:12 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) The recent action flick Hardcore Henry pulled off this gimmick pretty well. That's the first thing that came to my mind as well. Although it's a pretty tiresome gimmick eventually. Videogame/FPS POV isn't really suited for film format.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 10:30 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) Wasnt there a jack the ripper film that did a lot of pov with you viewing from Jack's perspective as he did his killings? And in a lot of the hammer films they regularly used pov from the vampire as michael Ripper's buxom wench barmaid first smiled into camera at the vampire... and then screamed! You may be referring to TIME AFTER TIME when, after the main title, there is a POV sequence featuring the prostitute at Whitechapel before she's killed. That was the only "on screen" killing in the film if I recall. And that's when a stylistic approach works, when it's reserved for a particular scene or shot.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 11:17 AM     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member) I dont think so erik, im thinking of one earlier than 79.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 11:19 AM     By:   Mr Greg   (Member) This device was used in "Doom", as a rather ham-fisted nod to it's video game origins.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 11:29 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) This device was used in "Doom", as a rather ham-fisted nod to it's video game origins. I call it "tunnel vision". Never a good vision.    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 5:07 PM     By:   The Wanderer   (Member) 84 Charlie Mopic was a decent Vietnam War film but i haven't seen it in about 25 years. That was all from the cameraman's point of view. About a squad of soldiers out in the jungle, if i recall (though i think it looked like it was filmed in America).    Posted:   Oct 15, 2018 - 5:55 PM     By:   Adam.   (Member) Not a film, but do you remember that episode of MASH where the soldier suffers a wound to the throat and the entire episode is filmed from his POV? I thought it was very well done.    Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 6:14 AM     By:   Tall Guy   (Member) The recent action flick Hardcore Henry pulled off this gimmick pretty well. It really did. I was impressed with the techniques used for this, and didn't feel vertiginous at all. There are scenes in the Coppola Dracula (rated 9.9/10 by at least one member of the public) that were shot from the first person POV. Or rather, the first beast POV.    Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 7:48 AM     By:   Solium   (Member) The recent action flick Hardcore Henry pulled off this gimmick pretty well. It really did. I was impressed with the techniques used for this, and didn't feel vertiginous at all. There are scenes in the Coppola Dracula (rated 9.9/10 by at least one member of the public) that were shot from the first person POV. Or rather, the first beast POV. Which reminds me a lot of monster films use this gimmick. Another one that comes to mind is "Wolfen". It was also used in parts for "Jaws" and "E.T".    Posted:   Oct 16, 2018 - 10:01 AM     By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member) I seem to recall quite a bit in American werewolf in london too?     Non-Film Score Discussion: Films Shot from the Protagonist's POV    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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