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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      Non-Film Score Discussion: APU - will he stay or will he go?     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 10:06 AM     By:   Montana Dave   (Member) Apu, the Clerk at the Kwik-E-Mart on The Simpsons for many years has been in the news of late. Some want him gone, some claim him beloved and endearing and want him to stay on the show. Any thoughts on any of this? Do you have fond memories of past episodes featuring Apu?    Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 10:25 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) Years ago when he was going to be deported for not having his green card, he lamented a great line, "There are so many things I wanted to do and have done unto me." But if Indians see him like Willie Best playing those horrible black caricatures, I can understand the resentment. It's different from the other Simpson caricatures, yes?    Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 1:41 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) haven't watched the show since Conan left but.... STUPIDO!    Posted:   Nov 1, 2018 - 4:14 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) Can't believe this series is still going. It's been running on vapours for years now. Will Apu stay or go? Will anyone be watching to know or care?    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 5:36 AM     By:   Jim Phelps   (Member) Apu, the Clerk at the Kwik-E-Mart on The Simpsons for many years has been in the news of late. Some want him gone, some claim him beloved and endearing and want him to stay on the show. Any thoughts on any of this? It used to be, "if you don't like it, don't watch it." Now it's "if you don't like it, ban it."    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 6:01 AM     By:   Disco Stu   (Member) But if Indians see him like Willie Best playing those horrible black caricatures, I can understand the resentment. One hint: this is PC so most likely it's not one of the "victims" complaining but someone on behalf of people who most likely don't feel themselves victimised. It's status and scoring points. Just keep doing it folks, you keep pushing until the mask comes off, revealing your hypocrisy and disingenuous nature, and you get consumed by your own fire and the flames of discontent from the people who will finally have had enough of you. Can't wait for the culling to start. D.S.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 8:15 AM     By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member) They didn't ban poor students when the controversy over Bart's "Underachiever and Proud of It" was all over the place. You'd be hard pressed to find a non-stereotype character on the series. I get that it's racial over, say, intellect, or old people, but since they make fun of kids with special needs (Ralph Wiggum), police (his dad) and over the top religious people (Stupid Flanders), I'm shocked they don't ban the entire series. I agree, the glory days of the series are long gone and I haven't gotten a genuine laugh from the show since the movie.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 9:30 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) But if Indians see him like Willie Best playing those horrible black caricatures, I can understand the resentment. One hint: this is PC so most likely it's not one of the "victims" complaining but someone on behalf of people who most likely don't feel themselves victimised. It's status and scoring points. Just keep doing it folks, you keep pushing until the mask comes off, revealing your hypocrisy and disingenuous nature, and you get consumed by your own fire and the flames of discontent from the people who will finally have had enough of you. Can't wait for the culling to start. D.S. I don't understand what you're ranting about, especially since the guy who launched a campaign against Apu's caricature is Indian-American. I just don't know if most Indian-Ams feel this way. If you don't see a problem with those cringe-worthy African-American half-wit characters from early Hollywood films, it makes sense this is an irrelevant concern or point of view.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 9:51 AM     By:   DOGBELLE   (Member) lets review. he's a volunteer fireman he goes to town meetings. he runs a small business. he seems to be everyone's friend. thanks to Homer butting into his life he has a bunch of kids. If this bothers people then I want Fat Tony, Luigi, Krusty the clown, All the Anti-Christian jokes, poking fun at Jews and others pulled. Then, Just like real life, it then sucks.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 9:54 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) lets review... I'm not disagreeing with your list of positives for Apu. But are you aware of what the complaints are based upon? That is, watched the short film that started the discussion called "The Problem With Apu" by comedian Hari Kondabolu?    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 10:10 AM     By:   DOGBELLE   (Member) lets review... I'm not disagreeing with your list of positives for Apu. But are you aware of what the complaints are based upon? That is, watched the short film that started the discussion called "The Problem With Apu" by comedian Hari Kondabolu? No, no that's bull. it cannot any more offensive than the other example I gave. If Apu was not on the show. What positive view would you have? He is not a passive charter. Maybe Mr. Kondabolu can have Apu run over by Chief of Police Chief Wiggumigams. (that should fit his view) Or maybe Fat Tony can have Apu bumped off for not paying his protection money?l(lets offend everyone) End the show! If you are so afraid to offend. That you cannot poke fun.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 10:13 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) lets review... I'm not disagreeing with your list of positives for Apu. But are you aware of what the complaints are based upon? That is, watched the short film that started the discussion called "The Problem With Apu" by comedian Hari Kondabolu? No, no that's bull. it cannot any more offensive than the other example I gave. I dont understand - you did or didnt watch the movie? If you didn't, then are you disagreeing with just the conclusion reached, rather than any of the points made to reach the conclusion?    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 10:47 AM     By:   DOGBELLE   (Member) lets review... I'm not disagreeing with your list of positives for Apu. But are you aware of what the complaints are based upon? That is, watched the short film that started the discussion called "The Problem With Apu" by comedian Hari Kondabolu? No, no that's bull. it cannot any more offensive than the other example I gave. I don't understand - you did or didn't watch the movie? If you didn't, then are you disagreeing with just the conclusion reached, rather than any of the points made to reach the conclusion? ok! I gave it a look. He is full of bull. The Cleveland show. Mike Henry (VI) Actor | Producer | Writer ( a white guy) His most popular voice characters include Cleveland Brown,(an Afro American man). So guess we should pull this show too because we have a White man doing a brown man (aka blackface). So I hope Hari Kondabolu is now happy. Because there would be no Apu in anybody's community. You know sometimes you can just over think.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 10:56 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Krusty offends me. Typical Jewish comedian stereotypes. Wait a sec.... I LOVE LOVE LOVE it anytime a show features a slimey, vulgar, cutthroat Jewish movie mogul (like my cousin Sumner Redstone ) or agent. My favorite has to be Mark Lapidus from EPISODES.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 10:59 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) I believe the Indian filmmaker is sincere. I have heard him interviewed. Just think he is misguided Brm    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 11:40 AM     By:   Last Child   (Member) I believe the Indian filmmaker is sincere. I have heard him interviewed. Just think he is misguided Brm Well, you know what they say. You don't know how someone feels until you walk in their moccasins. Er, well those other Indians might say that.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 11:46 AM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) I believe the Indian filmmaker is sincere. I have heard him interviewed. Just think he is misguided Brm Well, you know what they say. You don't know how someone feels until you walk in their moccasins. Er, well those other Indians might say that. Agreed. But his is just one opinion.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 12:22 PM     By:   davefg   (Member) lets review... I'm not disagreeing with your list of positives for Apu. But are you aware of what the complaints are based upon? That is, watched the short film that started the discussion called "The Problem With Apu" by comedian Hari Kondabolu? You forgot to add a mediocre PC comedian. If Apu's banned why not Willy or any Irish character? You could say they are offensive stereotypes too. The attempt to write out Apu is driven by ideological PC warriors who are seeking to frame society in their view. History is filled with many examples of ideological warriors who have sought to reorder society based on their values.    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 2:06 PM     By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member) Try watching the FX show Son of the Beach sometimes. The entire premise is built upon the broadest of racial, ethnic and gender sterotypes. Nowhere in the universe will you see a more wretched hive if racism, sexism, and homophobia. God help me, I do love it so! Brm    Posted:   Nov 2, 2018 - 3:00 PM     By:   Last Child   (Member) You forgot to add a mediocre PC comedian. If Apu's banned why not Willy or any Irish character? You could say they are offensive stereotypes too. The attempt to write out Apu is driven by ideological PC warriors who are seeking to frame society in their view. History is filled with many examples of ideological warriors who have sought to reorder society based on their values. So his being Indian has nothing to do with his feelings about being stereotyped? Labeling any attempt to critique society as "PC" isnt an argument. I think the fact that noone knows the best way to handle the issue shows it's not clear-cut. Maybe Apu would never be a character in India, but is he really as bad as a "minstrel" caricature here in USA? I dunno.     Non-Film Score Discussion: APU - will he stay or will he go?    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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