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 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

With their working relationship, I wonder what Goldsmith scored instead of Franklin Schaffner's SPHINX?


SPHINX might have been Jerry's MUMMY before THE MUMMY.

Michael J. Lewis' score sounds quite nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md1NQ-3_crA



 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

zooba, I think you should already know this - being such a Goldsmith fan.

In the FSM thread on Goldsmith chronology, it can be seen what Goldsmith worked on during 1980:

1980

• Masada (April 15 through 21)
• Inchon (July; recorded in Italy)
• Final Conflict (September)

I also suspect that The Salamander could have been recorded in the summer of '80 in Italy, though it may have been done during the '80/'81 winter.

Since Sphinx was released in February of 1981, its principal filming must have taken place during months within 1980 (maybe even earlier?) and we can see Goldsmith was erstwhile occupied from Spring thru Autumn of '80 to commit himself to scoring Sphinx.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Okay he might have been just a tad busy doing the following, which all came out in 1981, the same year as SPHINX.

THE FINAL CONFLICT

MASADA

INCHON

OUTLAND

THE SALAMANDER

and

THE RAGGEDY MAN

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

... also, as one movie reviewer/critic said: Sphinx stinks. big grin

Goldsmith already inherited the stinker Inchon from John Williams, right?
Did you really want Goldsmith to be overloaded with yet another smelly flic, eh?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA

Another Schaffner not scored by Goldsmith.

Dang that DO NOT FOLD, SPINDLE OR MUTILATE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJaLLw-nXQ

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA

Another Schaffner not scored by Goldsmith.


Much as I like Goldsmith, I can't imagine a better score for NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA than what Richard Rodney Bennett composed. It captures the grand yet tragic tone of the film perfectly.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)


Much as I like Goldsmith, I can't imagine a better score for NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA than what Richard Rodney Bennett composed. It captures the grand yet tragic tone of the film perfectly.


Yes, in all honesty, I agree. Goldsmith is awesome but I wouldn't trade Bennett's score for anything.

And actually, it was not scheduling that kept Goldsmith off N&A, but Sam Spiegel, who wanted a "bigger name". He offered the film to Leonard Bernstein, who turned it down, but Bernstein recommended Bennett.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   rmd007   (Member)


Much as I like Goldsmith, I can't imagine a better score for NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA than what Richard Rodney Bennett composed. It captures the grand yet tragic tone of the film perfectly.


Yes, in all honesty, I agree. Goldsmith is awesome but I wouldn't trade Bennett's score for anything.

And actually, it was not scheduling that kept Goldsmith off N&A, but Sam Spiegel, who wanted a "bigger name". He offered the film to Leonard Bernstein, who turned it down, but Bernstein recommended Bennett.


Sorry to change the actual subject, but is is my imagination or has there ever been a cd release of Nicholas and Alexandra?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 11:09 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA

Another Schaffner not scored by Goldsmith.


Much as I like Goldsmith, I can't imagine a better score for NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA than what Richard Rodney Bennett composed. It captures the grand yet tragic tone of the film perfectly.



Bennett's score is quite beautiful and powerful indeed. The choral sequence even reminds of the Biblical Sound and grandeur of Miklos Rozsa. Bennett definitely gave Schaffner an epic superb score.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Sorry to change the actual subject, but is is my imagination or has there ever been a cd release of Nicholas and Alexandra?


Nope. I am still waiting for one as well... only semi official and sourced from questionable source - Artemis CD.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2018 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

Sorry to change the actual subject, but is is my imagination or has there ever been a cd release of Nicholas and Alexandra?

Nope. I am still waiting for one as well... only semi official and sourced from questionable source - Artemis CD.


FYI - the out of print Blu-Ray from Twilight Time features the isolated score. It sounds very good.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2018 - 1:36 AM   
 By:   Mose Harper   (Member)

I love Goldsmith, though I have to admit I never really realized his enormous talent and influence until I got back into listening to soundtracks and lurking here a few years ago.

That said, Lewis's score to Sphinx is one of my favorites. I paid an inflated collector's price for it and it was worth every penny.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2018 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I bring up the lack of legit CD--any CD--for Nicholas and Alexandra every once in a while. So I might as well again. The last time was in a Quincy Jones thread I started about the few soundtrack lps he did that were not on CD (For Love of Ivy, The Hot Rock, Bob and Carol, etc, and Cactus Flower.) The last two were on Bell Records, which was also Nicholas and Alexandra's label. Bell also put out a Legrand collection (Brian's Song). Is there some issue with albums on Bell Records?

Lewis did a good job on Sphinx. Lewis also was the first composer not named John Barry to score a Bryan Forbes film (The Madwoman of Chaillot) after 5 films with Barry.

 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2018 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I've seen two different explanations.

The first being he was busy with "The Final Conflict", however, the second was issues he had with the script. I think it's probably a combo: he hated the script and used the excuse of scoring the other film to turn "Sphinx" down.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2018 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I get a sense that Michael J. Lewis (who could have been great except for his alcohol problem) was Schaffner's alternate composer having used him in both THE SPHINX and YES, GIORGIO.

 
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