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Jun 26, 2023 - 1:28 PM
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Tom Servo
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That piece seems more interested in quoting the themes than scoring the scene..
Totally agree, said more succinctly than I stated
Touche to you both. The Avengers isn't about individuals. As Nick Fury says in the first movie, the Avengers were an idea of heroes coming together to fight the menaces that no one could fight alone. Silvestri got that and applied it to all 3 of his Avengers scores. The team fighting together is the star.
Exactly, and the approach the music takes is usually the result of long, thoughtful conversations between the composer and director, of what they need the music to highlight. I think some fans seem to adopt almost a "jukebox" like approach to film scoring, trotting a character's theme every time said character appears onscreen no matter what else is happening, and these fans seem oblivious to subtext, to scoring what's not evident onscreen, such as the overall emotional intent of the scene.
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Jun 26, 2023 - 2:58 PM
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rdj252
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That piece seems more interested in quoting the themes than scoring the scene..
Totally agree, said more succinctly than I stated
Touche to you both. The Avengers isn't about individuals. As Nick Fury says in the first movie, the Avengers were an idea of heroes coming together to fight the menaces that no one could fight alone. Silvestri got that and applied it to all 3 of his Avengers scores. The team fighting together is the star.
Exactly, and the approach the music takes is usually the result of long, thoughtful conversations between the composer and director, of what they need the music to highlight. I think some fans seem to adopt almost a "jukebox" like approach to film scoring, trotting a character's theme every time said character appears onscreen no matter what else is happening, and these fans seem oblivious to subtext, to scoring what's not evident onscreen, such as the overall emotional intent of the scene.
I had the same experience when I saw Infinity War. When Cap appears and saves Scarlet Witch I thought the scene would have played better if Silvestri had used his Cap theme instead of the Avengers theme. I was bummed until I saw Endgame. When Stark gives Rogers the shield back, I realized that he hadn't been Cap in the rescue scene. When he got his shield back, he was Cap again and themes from the Cap movies were heard then later in his battle with Thanos. Very good choice, played well with the story and he scored the film not just a moment or a character.
I liked seeing this video, and there were a few times it would have been neat to hear some of the other themes, but this played much better the way Silvestri did it.
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I agree; I liked it too and thought it had impact, with everyone "adding their voice" and "coming together" (musically) before landing on the Avengers theme. (Not that I dislike Silvestri's actual cue there.)
Yavar
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The Silvestri approach fits the scene and lets it breath a bit more.
