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 Posted:   May 21, 2003 - 8:09 PM   
 By:   James Gelet   (Member)

This DVD is a treasure for fans of this masterpiece!

I'm curious about one thing though. On the Special Features disc there is a very easy to find easter egg that contains some music that I'm not familiar with. On the main menu of the disc scroll up or down until a horse appears. The feature is a montage of footage that the editor of the movie put together. It features three movements of music.

The first sounds unbelievably similar to the theme to JFK, and the second sounds just as similar to TWISTER. The melodies, instrumentations, and even tempo changes are spot-on matches in some places. My first guess would have been that these were rejected temp-track versions of these scores, but DANCES came out before JFK and TWISTER.

Who can satisfy my curiousity?

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2003 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   wyatt earp   (Member)

This DVD is a treasure for fans of this masterpiece!


The first sounds unbelievably similar to the theme to JFK, and the second sounds just as similar to TWISTER. The melodies, instrumentations, and even tempo changes are spot-on matches in some places. My first guess would have been that these were rejected temp-track versions of these scores, but DANCES came out before JFK and TWISTER.

Who can satisfy my curiousity?


I guess it can be music by John Beal, and yes, it sounds a lot like JFK & Twister. Which were heavily temp tracked with 4th of July & "Follow me" from Always.
By the way, the trailer music, by Steve Graziano, is beautiful.
The dvd is great, but where is the isolated score? And where is the complete score that Sony planned to release?

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2003 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   Michael Ware   (Member)

People are actually buying this instead of the Image DTS version? How long does it take to go out of print now? Has it been that long? Anyway, the dts disc was one of the few mastered at the complete 1509 kilobit per sec bit rate, just really fine audio which served that score beautifully. So in the ideal matrix, good sound is out and lowly 444 kbps dolby digital is the fulfilling apex of social engineering? Damn, we used to think CDs were compromised. We should have been happy our laserdiscs had the same quality as CDs. No, we want thin sounding compressed mp3 audio with subwoofers!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2008 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

I found this old thread re: the film (as opposed to the score(s) CD).

We watched the film last evening - all 3.75 hrs of it (approx.) in the extended version.

Superb sound, superb picture ... superb film (of course). I've owned this DVD for nearly 4 years and have been waiting for time to watch it - I last saw the extended version on the old VHS tape release.

One of the few films I've rated 10/10 on IMDb ... it isn't perfect but there's so much to enjoy that it seems childish to dock a point off the rating.

As for the score (not one of my favourite John Barry scores): my (18 yr old) daughter, who is normally less than complimentary about my music choices, said how wonderful she thought the score is.

It is not a film I'd watch every year or so but it is a film I look forward to watching again.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 12:44 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

I love this film. It is one of the greatest films ever made. I own the extended cut on DVD – HOWEVER….
I live in Australia, (region B) – and it has not been released down here on blu ray.
I ordered the ultimate copy of this film, in High Definition. – It appears to be the greatest “Dances With Wolves” package ever released! Here are a couple of links: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/585/danceswithwolves.html

and… http://www.amazon.com/Dances-Wolves-Two-Disc-Anniversary-Blu-ray/dp/B004AOECTC/ref=sr_1_3?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1384072843&sr=1-3&keywords=dances+with+wolves

Unfortunately, when I put it my Blu Ray player – it does NOT work –
The message that comes up is the following:
This disc has been coded for region A only and will not play in your region B Blu Ray player.

I had a look on “the net” – and tried to get some info – as to WHY IT WON’T WORK? It seems they did something which is called “region A locked”.
To me it seems this release is so fantastic, that they will not let other counties experience it.
I believe there is a region B Blu Ray release available to buy, but it DOES NOT FEATURE the extended cut of the film…. and it’s not in high definition, and no Special Features! It boasts to be region "free" - and I believe (when you check out the back cover) - it is the normal 181 minute version - why release it at all then? http://www.amazon.com/Dances-Wolves-Blu-ray-Region-Free/dp/B002CYIR1Q/ref=sr_1_7?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1384072977&sr=1-7&keywords=dances+with+wolves

Does anyone know a “way to get around this” – so that there is a possibility that I might be able to watch my “Region A Locked” blu ray, as this is the way movies are meant to be released, but then – why lock it?
Do I need to buy an imported “American” Blu Ray player. I’ve seen at least 10 Blu Ray films imported from USA, I own 2 Blu Ray players, and I believed they were BOTH multi region, until I played this title, but then – why does this important film “actually” advertise as one of its Technical Specs “REGION A LOCKED” (?)
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

The US release, released by 20th Century Fox, is region locked because Fox only has the rights to release the disc in the US/Canada. You should have checked the region code before buying it.

The only way to get around this is to buy a region free Blu-ray player or buy the German release which has the director's cut and all the extras.

Warner Bros. has released the theatrical cut on a region free Blu-ray in various region B countries, but this release has no extras.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Thanks Frank.

One important question though - is the German release identical to the High Definition release I mentioned above?

If so - then that solves my worries.

It looks like these releases are standard.

This one has 2 discs, but it only features the 2 film cuts: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dances-with-Wolves-Blu-ray/9630/

The other German release seems to be the one disc extended cut without the extras: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dances-with-Wolves-Blu-ray/2288/

I have noticed that it says Region B Locked.

This version is not German - but it is the title I was talking about - has Germany got the same 20th Anniversary Edition Release?
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dances-with-Wolves-Blu-ray/281/

Finally, I've checked out the German Amazon website, and it seems that they don't have that 20th Anniversary release - if there is one - I'll buy it.
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_binding_browse-b_mrr_0?rh=n%3A284266%2Ck%3Adances+with+wolves%2Cp_n_binding_browse-bin%3A383370011&keywords=dances+with+wolves&ie=UTF8&qid=1384075322&rnid=383369011

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

Thanks Frank.

One important question though - is the German release identical to the High Definition release I mentioned above?


No, there are color differences. See:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare2/danceswithwolves.htm

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   ANDREW   (Member)

Hi Reeve
I'm an Aussie too......and I have THE solution for you...

Go to any Big W and buy a Laser Bluray PLayer. They cost $88 and play EVERY DAMN FORMAT YOU CAN THINK OF!!!

It is a magnificent machine, is multi region and plays mp3, mp4 ,Mkv and avi files......and any blu or DVD you can think of....and I have the Region 1 us dances with wolves so I know it works...

Enjoy....get to Big W ASAP!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Thanks Frank, - I have been to that page, because I've saved those beautiful images to "My Pictures" all ready - I love that film and it's cinematography - however -

I am not sure that - if I click on the "BUY AMAZON.ca" logo -

Is that it is the actual German Release? What I don't trust is that....

Once you click on to that logo - it takes you to this page..... http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004AOECTC/ref=nosim?tag=dvdbeavercom-20&link_code=as2&creativeASIN=B004AOECTC&creative=9398&camp=2514

Where does it say that this Blu Ray is for Region B?

How do I trust that THE PAGE I just clicked, is the German Blu Ray release? I don't.

I wouldn't put my money down to buy it.

If you could Frank, then.... maybe, send me - the link to buying the 20th Anniversary Dances With Wolves Blu Ray - German Release - region b - which is basically identical High Definition etc -

The only difference being some minor color issues right? It still has the identical special features etc.

Judging from the link you just gave me, the cover is identical - or is it a different cover?

Hey Andrew! I just saw your reply! Thanks for that update! It's ashame that I need to go to Big W - and buy a new "Laser" player for 2 discs! All the other 1000 + discs I own don't have this problem! This is the first time. I always believed Multi Region means "IT PLAYS" everything! Thanks Mate!

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

The only German release available at this time is the steelbook release. It includes both cuts and most extras from the US release, but not all.

http://www.amazon.de/tanzt-Special-Steel-Edition-Blu-ray/dp/B0046EJIKO/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I love my 20th anniversary Blu-ray of "Dances With Wolves" and have never missed not having an isolated score. And I also love my SACD of the John Barry soundtrack, which remains a favorite of mine (though it's annoying that I have to keep my OLD Blu-ray player just to be able to play SACDs anymore!).

 
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