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 Posted:   Aug 24, 2003 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Has anybody ordered and received 'The Story
of Ruth' from Varese? I need to know whether or not it's in stereo. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2003 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   MICHAEL HOMA   (Member)

its in stereo and it has that dragggggggggning and draggggggggging and draggggggggging , just like THE LONG HOT SUMMER AND BELOVED INFIDEL. and the stereo enables to hear the dragggggggggging much more clearly !

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2003 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

its in stereo and it has that dragggggggggning and draggggggggging and draggggggggging , just like THE LONG HOT SUMMER AND BELOVED INFIDEL. and the stereo enables to hear the dragggggggggging much more clearly !

Please to explain?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2003 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

More 'mag wow,' you mean?

Beloved Infidel is very affected by this syndrome in places.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2003 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   MICHAEL HOMA   (Member)

More 'mag wow,' you mean?

Beloved Infidel is very affected by this syndrome in places.
......yes , thats it!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2003 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

That's very disappointing to hear...

I've got Virgin Queen coming to me on the slow UPS truck from Van Nuys and I pray that it doesn't sound any worse than Beloved Infidel. I guess Fox decided that Waxman scores were going to be at the bottom of the preservation list. I probably should be thankful that we got Prince Valiant with such fantastic sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2003 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   MICHAEL HOMA   (Member)

That's very disappointing to hear...

I've got Virgin Queen coming to me on the slow UPS truck from Van Nuys and I pray that it doesn't sound any worse than Beloved Infidel. I guess Fox decided that Waxman scores were going to be at the bottom of the preservation list. I probably should be thankful that we got Prince Valiant with such fantastic sound.
......dont worry , THE VIRGIN QUEEN is one of the best ones , sound wise.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2003 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Pardon me for keeping this post alive - but
I'd really just like a straight answer to
my question without the cryptic poetry.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2003 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   cdesmedt   (Member)

Can someone compare this score with another Waxman ? Never saw the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2003 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

The movie is so earnest, it's deadening. In a dramatic choice similar to the previous DAVID AND BATHSHEBA, Norman Corwin's script goes for the religious over the romantic. It makes for a theologically interesting set of ideas, but it's not very involving. Elana Eden in the title role does what she can, but her inexperience shows, and, given the script limitations, she ultimately seems wooden. The two men in her life, first Tom Tryon then Stuart Whitman, are stalwart, and show nice legs from out of their cocktail-dress tunics, but all they can do is groan and grunt, respectively. Again, the script impedes the romance, by making temple priestess Eden's moonlight rendezvous with Jewish jeweler Tryon focus on theological discussion!

The only real alleviation comes from the supporting cast, most notably Viveca Lindfors, as a silky, strutting senior priestess, and, especially, Peggy Wood, in one of her rare screen roles, as Ruth's mother-in-law, Naomi. Wood transcends the material with a solid emotional core that makes everyone else, by comparison, look as if they're showing off in a school play.

The accompanying notes with the CD give a fascinating account of the evolution of the film's script. (One wonders what the Maxwell Anderson version was like!)

I wanted to see the movie for years. It came out in the summer of 1960, when I was away at camp. I read the Dell movie tie-in comic book of it (Curiously enough, the cover of the comic utilized the same color photo which also appears on the back of the current CD release!), and I really wanted to see it, but, by the time I returned home, it had, predictably enough, disappeared from view. Years later, I finally caught up with it on TV, and, some time after that, finally made a reel-to-reel tape of just the music segments, which was the only way in those days to hear this music.

I confess to not actually liking the music when I first heard it. But the score grows on you. And, since I'm not as much of a sound afficionado as my above contemporaries, I think the sound on the CD is just great. It's certainly better than the previous bootleg I had for some years. From an altogether flop movie, the score, which has become something of a cult favorite over the years, is undeniably now in the best released form you're ever likely to see.

I hope all of you realize just what a Golden Age of soundtrack releases we are currently living in. The day will come when all of these will be highly prized collector's items.

Enjoy.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2003 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....I hope all of you realize just what a Golden Age of soundtrack releases we are currently living in. The day will come when all of these will be highly prized collector's items.

Enjoy.....



Absolutely.

John Archibald is right. These Golden Age releases of the original master material held by the studios, after nearly 50 years in "hot" storage, even if they are not in perfect condition, are the best we'll ever get.

In exchange for buying the ones we're most interested in ("for the cause") we'll be rewarded not only with great filmmusic, but very valuable collector's items one day. It's almost a given that they'll never be released again.

As Frank Sinatra says in THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT: "You can wait around and hope, but you'll never see the likes of these again!"

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2003 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

The film has its moments. Only the second half is really biblical. The first half fills in the "backstory," as in THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. Curiously I think this extrabiblical backstory works best -- perhaps because the filmmakers felt less constrained by the material. At least on an aural level (for I know the film mainly from an audiotape), I find the Ruth-Mahlon romance rather moving.

I'm very eager to hear the new disc.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2003 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

The music does grow on you. Much of it is traditonal Waxman and a third is what I call Wacko Waxman, like some of the stranger parts of
Silver Chalice.
time to release Cimarron, an uncut Peyton Place, Return to Peyton Place and, most important of all, MY COUSIN RACHEL, one of the greatest film scores ever.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2003 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   cdesmedt   (Member)

Thanks for the info. I 'll buy it anyway, but it has to wait a month. I have (a lot) of others on my wishlist.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2003 - 2:01 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Question - the Varese Webswite sazyas there is a demo for the song of Story of Ruth - Who sings it?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2003 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Question - the Varese Webswite sazyas there is a demo for the song of Story of Ruth - Who sings it?

Surprisingly there is no mention of the vocalist in the booklet !

 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2003 - 4:06 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

The music does grow on you. Much of it is traditonal Waxman and a third is what I call Wacko Waxman, like some of the stranger parts of Silver Chalice.


Wacko Waxman - that's pretty funny, Joe! Granted, it does have some peculiar moments, but nothing that strikes me as out of place for an ancient world score. I happen to like it very much; it's richly exotic, with much that is lovely as well. It also makes use of some fairly rare and unique-sounding instruments - the serpent, the taragato, and the sarrusophone. (Bernard Herrmann would approve.)

I'm thrilled to have this score available finally in a complete and legit release. Now hopefully on to THE SILVER CHALICE, a greater and more unified score by several degrees!

But has no one else noticed that another of the latest batch of Varese Club releases also suffers from some wow? I hear it in JUSTINE - not quite as evident as on RUTH, but still audible, at least to my ears.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2003 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

The only track on Justine where I notice any major problem is 13... As soon as that track comes on I know exactly what track I'm listening to from the poor sound quality.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2003 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I'm still not sure whether anybody has actually
answered my question.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 28, 2003 - 7:08 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I can't believe a few collectors complain of "mag wow" etc. that one can barely hear or notice. As a collector for 40 years I am just thrilled to be getting these classic golden age scores. Back in the 60s and 70s I never dreamed such music would ever be issued. I am very grateful to be getting classic Alfred Newman, Franz Waxman, Max Steiner etc.

 
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