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 Posted:   Sep 20, 2003 - 11:21 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

I've been longing for an expanded "South Pacific" CD for years with all of Alfred Newman's underscoring. My favorite underscoring is the scene between Emile De Becque and Lt. Cable right after the song "This Nearly Was Mine" and Lt. Cable is throwing out to him the idea of going to the Marie Louise Islands with him. If you hadn't noticed it, play this scene on your DVD player and absorb all of DeBecque's confusion being musically conveyed by Newman. I wish Varese would release it. Do they have access to the tracks? The film is 20th Century Fox but I think it was originally released by Magna (the Company that released the "Oklahoma" film). Who can fill us in on this?

NP: Duck, You Sucker (Ennio Morricone)


Magna released the Todd-AO versions of OKLAHOMA! and SOUTH PACIFIC. Magna was a production company which included, amoung others, Rodgers and Hammerstien. 20th released the 35mm general release versions of both films. 20th was a major investor as well. RCA released the SP soundtrack and may the reason why an expanded release has not been prepared.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2003 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

RCA IS the reason an expanded CD has not been released. They feel there is no interest in one!

And thanks all, it's great to hear that others enjoy SP as much as I. There are so many in the "other" camp.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2016 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

It has been 13 years since the original post on this thread. And still, PORGY AND BESS is considered a lost cause. What a shame that this “American Classic” is held captive by a few people with what in my mind, are Ill-considered opinions.
From the earlier posts, those who have been lucky enough to see PORGY AND BESS were more than a little impressed with its production values, sound and image quality. So why are we still hoping beyond hope that PORGY AND BESS might appear on Blu-Ray or DVD? I’ll be 62 this year and it’s saddens me that I will probably never see this film again.
From what I know, the Gershwin Estate simply refuses to let go of this because it was made as a “musical” and not the “opera” that Gershwin wrote. While I understand this “take” on the piece, I find it utterly snobbish and ridiculous. In the first place, can anyone of us imagine a 1958 movie-going audience sitting still for any of the recitative? Not by any stretch of anyone’s imagination would this have happened.

As far as interpretation goes, there is not a Gershwin composition out there that has not been affected by personal tastes and choices in orchestration, arranging, style, genre and performers whim. So why then is there all this animosity, and reticence to release PORGY AND BESS (the film) to the public based on interpretation?

I, for one, find the performances of the recorded singers to be my favorite. Andre Previn’s scoring is absolutely impeccable and production values are indeed high. Mr. Samuel Goldwyn did not set out to make a bad film… just one that the general movie going public could relate to at the time. The film was a product of its time. I also understand there are some issues concerning the race issue, but again, you cannot look at a film like this, from this period, with anything other than 1958 eyes. It needs to be seen, discussed, praised or dismissed, but NOT by a biased few who act like the “thought police.”

I would love to speak, or write to Michael Feinstein, who is considered a leading authority on all things Gershwin to get his honest opinion. And even knowing he might agree with the “who-cares-about-that-film” take on this, convince him and the Gershwin Estate to relent. The film of PORGY AND BESS is not worthless, just a different interpretation of an astounding work.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2016 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

From what I've heard, the Gershwin Estate has finally let go of "Porgy and Bess", or so it's been reported over at Home Theater Forum which has hosted some lively discussions of this film. The Goldwyn library was taken over by WB some years ago. They listed all the Goldwyn acquisitions but"Porgy and Bess" was not among them. Some are still claiming that no good elements survive, but Thor's firsthand experience refutes that. A group of us attended a 35mm screening in L.A. some eight or so years ago. We ended up sitting next to Sammy Davis' son for the show, which was a lot of fun. I don't know who has the rights at this time. Perhaps someone has a clue. Maybe there is still some stigma attached to the movie, which I also think is foolishness. Actually, I love Preminger's take on "Porgy and Bess" and still dream of an official release someday, preferably in HD and scanned from that 70mm print.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2016 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Lots of good stuff here....

...and here:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=10761&archive=1

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2016 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

Thanks for the information! I appreciate the interest.

 
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