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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3      General Discussion: Images (1972)     1 2 3    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Feb 3, 2004 - 11:14 PM     By:   JJH   (Member) I just saw that tonight the Sundance Channel will present at 10pm Pacific time Robert Altman's Images, with score by John Williams. Been wanting to hear the Williams score in context for so long now, the inaccessibility (is that a word?) of the movie has been frustrating.    Posted:   Feb 3, 2004 - 11:51 PM     By:   quiller007   (Member) I just saw that tonight the Sundance Channel will present at 10pm Pacific time Robert Altman's Images, with score by John Williams. Been wanting to hear the Williams score in context for so long now, the inaccessibility (is that a word?) of the movie has been frustrating. Altman's IMAGES has been available on DVD for the past few months. As far as Williams' score goes, the tapes no longer exist. Dennis    Posted:   Feb 4, 2004 - 4:59 PM     By:   Membership Expired   (Member) As far as Williams' score goes, the tapes no longer exist. Dennis Really? What if your source?    Posted:   Feb 4, 2004 - 6:22 PM     By:   Paul MacLean   (Member) Altman's IMAGES has been available on DVD for the past few months. As far as Williams' score goes, the tapes no longer exist. Dennis Crud! You're sure?    Posted:   Feb 4, 2004 - 6:46 PM     By:   quiller007   (Member) Really? What if your source? Lukas Kendall is my source. He posted this info on another thread, a few months ago. Den    Posted:   Feb 4, 2004 - 7:57 PM     By:   Membership Expired   (Member) Damn, did he mention if the album masters for the LP survived?    Posted:   Feb 4, 2004 - 9:24 PM     By:   MornNB   (Member) Well at least Williams will have the score sheets in his house score sheet library perhaps even his own tape of it.... A problem is though parts of that score were improvisations.    Posted:   Feb 5, 2004 - 11:07 AM     By:   vinylscrubber   (Member) The LP masters would suffice, as the album was virtually complete, covering all the salient (and, yes, sometimes strange) high points of this very atypical Williams score. Plus, the original Hemdale Academy-promo release of the LP was an extremely well pressed and mastered item--just woefully lacking in graphics.    Posted:   Feb 5, 2004 - 11:26 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Plus, the original Hemdale Academy-promo release of the LP was an extremely well pressed and mastered item--just woefully lacking in graphics. But you've remedied that!    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 12:35 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Listening to this superb Williams score now. THIS is how I want experimental, avantgarde music to be. Chockful of interesting and exotic instruments in wild structures and devoid of those annoying minimalist tendencies that is typical of so much contemporary classical music. Then suddenly into this anarchic landscape full of human moaning, piano string punches and weird sonorities, Williams throws in some rigid, quasi-Bach classicism (like "Blood Moon"). Incredible dynamic there. I really wish someone would release this on a regular CD some day, especially now that the DVD is out. It's a cornerstone in Williams' filmography.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 2:56 PM     By:   EdG   (Member) I'd like to see a licensed cd mastered from that promo lp, too. It's like nothing Williams has ever done (except maybe his flute concerto).    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 3:11 PM     By:   rerunkr   (Member) Back in July of this year, I moderated a score analysis seminar of the score to "Images" for a handful of SCL members. The music I played was taken from the 1972 Motion Picture Academy LP screener that was sent to Academy members. We also were able to procure copies of the John Williams original scores. (With John's blessings). It was rather difficult to match up the scores to the music on the LP, and even more confusing when trying to match those two elements to the 2003 DVD of the film. It's possible that Robert Altman might have done some repostioning of the music when he made the new DVD. Hope that this might clear up some of the confusion. Stu Phillips    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 3:29 PM     By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member) THIS is how I want experimental, avantgarde music to be. Chockful of interesting and exotic instruments in wild structures and devoid of those annoying minimalist tendencies that is typical of so much contemporary classical music. Who are you talking about in contemporary music? I'd like to hear your description of minimalist tendencies in contemporary classical music.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 4:35 PM     By:   dogplant   (Member) A terrific movie, with a great performance from Susannah York and truly beautiful score, but it's not a score that I could ever imagine being re-recorded, with those wacky vocalisations and wonderful Baschet sculptures sonores. I remember seeing a copy of JW's original handwritten sheet music in Irwin Bazelon's Knowing The Score, and it contained some of the most surreal notes and directions, calling for 'sound like a giant bag deflating' etc. -- great stuff!    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 5:14 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Who are you talking about in contemporary music? I'd like to hear your description of minimalist tendencies in contemporary classical music. Glass, Nyman, Kilar, Iglesias...    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 5:27 PM     By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member) I have a couple of copies of the Bazelon book, and the notation for Images is just about as surreal as the score(HAH!)! Bazelon and I had something in common... he couldn't stand Jarre, either! And I agree... it would be impossible to rerecord this score, except for the lyrical passages, which could more than likely be easily performed! However, Lukas has worked miracles with LP sources on many occasions(HINT-HINT!)!! P.S. The Herrmann interview in the Bazelon book is a hoot!    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 5:28 PM     By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member) Oh.. and dogplant.... I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY appreciate you posting that picture of Suzannah York!    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 5:48 PM     By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member) Glass, Nyman, Kilar, Iglesias... I see where you're getting at... I'd like to hear music in film lean again towards experimentalism, neoclassism and post-modern more than minimalist.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 5:57 PM     By:   Paul MacLean   (Member) it's not a score that I could ever imagine being re-recorded, with those wacky vocalisations and wonderful Baschet sculptures sonores. Images' abstract percussion notations shouldn't invalidate a new recording, provided the Baschet sculptures could be procured of course. A rerecording would not sound identical to original, but lots of late 20th century music has aleatoric and improvisatory passages or abstract notation, which allows a fair amount of interpretive room for the performer.    Posted:   Nov 29, 2006 - 6:16 PM     By:   EdG   (Member) I don't see why Images' abstract percussion notations invalidate a new recording. It doesn't, of course. But there was a large degree of, shall we say, interpretation, or perhaps the right word is improvisation, to this particular score (Williams is a jazz man, after all). It's hard to replicate that sort of thing in a new recording, especially without the film. It wouldn't sound identical to original of course, YIKES! Don't get this board started on THAT! It would certainly be better than no recording at all. Very true.     General Discussion: Images (1972)    < 1 2 3  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3

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