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 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Okay, is it just me or does the Hellboy CD have some subtle, yet annoying audio glitches?
This is my second copy (I returned the first one) and the problems persist.
On both of my copies, in the last 43 seconds of "Alley Fight", there is an annoying ticking sound that is definitly not part of the music.
It is present in most of the tracks. The above example is the most noticeable.
Try listening with headphones and it jumps right out.
Anyone notice this?

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Jostein   (Member)

Could it be audible click-track in the recording?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

No, it's a mastering problem. I wonder if Varese is aware of this problem. It's been mentioned several times.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

what I hear sounds like all part of the cue, a snare drum or cymble tap, nothing that sounds like it shoulnt be there.
sd

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Jim Titus   (Member)

There's definitely some sort of mastering problem with this CD. I mentioned it here on this board about a month ago -- and a number of others since have had the same problems.

I can hear distinct digital pops and clicks that do NOT sound like they are deliberate. Especially on the "Father's Funeral" track. A real shame, since this is quite a thematically rich and start-to-finish pleasing soundtrack.

Has anyone on the board ever had any success with Varese where these types of problems are concerned? Do they eventually correct the problem and replace the defective CDs...? Or are we stuck with them?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

mine sounds good.mabye they corrected it when by the time I got mine.
I got mine about a week after its release here in Flordia.
sd

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I wasn't aware of the previous threds.
I'm gonna either call or email varerse today.
I hope they will replace it......


 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I wasn't aware of the previous threds.
I'm gonna either call or email varerse today.
I hope they will replace it......






I beleave any kind of reputable(sorry about the spelling) company would. Lets us know if they do and how the replacement sounds, again mine sounds ok to me and that might just be my 47 year old brain.
best of luck
sd

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

I have not purchased this score, however, after seeing the film numerious times, I agree that the music was terrific.
Like any purchase, you the buyer, have the right to return a product.
Quality is a promise that should not be broken, without a loss taken by the maker.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

The Mutant,

Perhaps check the play surface of the CD for scratches or nicks. I know when I opened my Quo Vadis disc and removed the CD in a haste, I scratched the Hell out of the play surface. Luckily my brother had some liquid sealant that you spread and rub onto the disc until it disappears - afterwards any scars in the plastic have been sealed. HMV and similar places carry this stuff, I believe.

Maybe your CD was scratched at the factory; I had a listen to my brother`s copy of Hellboy (the track you mentioned previously) - which should be mine... its a testament to the quality of the score that my heavy metal brother picked it up - and it was fine.

Btw, there was some snare drum/maraca (?) subtleties starting about 40-50 seconds into the theme. Sometimes I find myself hating those instruments when they are a-melodic... it gets difficult to tell a note from a skip (!).

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2004 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

This disc is riddled with sound glitches. They are not caused by scratches or other physical anomolies.

Beltrami's finest EVER score and it sounds like poo. Typical.

John

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I called them. They told me one other person had complained.
They wanted me to send it back to them so they can hear it for themselves. I'm gonna just send 'em a cdr of it.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

My advice would be to document exactly where the problems are so whoever listens to it knows where to look and listen.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Jim Titus   (Member)

Now that's a good Idea, BMikeJ!

Here's two tracks during which I'm hearing the digital popping sound -- that I'm now calling "the titch"...

Main Title:
First heard at 0:29, then 0:35, 0:40, 0:46, 0:52, 0:57

Father's Funeral:
First heart at :038, then 1:00, 1:07, 1:14, 1:22, 1:29, 1:36, 1:43

Also, just a side note, but it seems like "the titch" is heard mainly during the larger, swelling sections and none that I can find during the softer, subtle moments.

Damn this dirty titch! Damn it straight to hell!

NP: Me First and the Gimme Gimmes... blasphemy on a film score board, I know!

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I called them. They told me one other person had complained.
They wanted me to send it back to them so they can hear it for themselves. I'm gonna just send 'em a cdr of it.


I`d send them the original actual copy... the burn process introduces another layer of potential screw-up, which those who are not you could point to as a culprit for the problems you perceive. In other words, send them the actual disc you say is flawed, not a copy; otherwise you`re asking for more delay and convolution.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 8:09 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Of course, if he documents where some of the problems are, specifically, they can check one of their OWN originals. I'm sure there is a promo copy lying around the office.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I got out my personal cd player with the head phones turned up and listened closely.
Mines still good, dont hear any flaws.
So there are some good ones floating around out there.
: )
sd

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2004 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Weird.
This sounds similar to that other guy's recent Predator thread.
He complained of pops and clicks as well, but my copy sounds fine.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2004 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

It's certainly possible that there was more than one pressing of Hellboy done. Maybe the first batch was bad... Mine's bad. Yours is bad and we know there are other people who have the same problem.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2004 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   MWRuger   (Member)

Sounds like I need to wait to acquire this album till the dust settles and we get word from Varese on the extent of the problem.

 
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