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 Posted:   Jun 20, 2004 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

We had a gang in last night to see Hitchcock's SABOTEUR with Robert Cummings. During the screening I was reminded how exceptional Frank Skinner's score is for this picture. One of the most effective cues is when Cummings and Priscilla Lane are stopped in the desert - she trying to flag down a car to evade him and he trying to cut his handcuffs on the engine blade. Skinner's music is an escalating motif reflecting the whirring engine and Cumming's anxiety. Much of this score was recycled for SON OF DRACULA.

One observation for hardcore Skinnerphiles (I KNOW you're out there!). The scene in the crown of the Statue of Liberty is sans music. However, when the music does come in it sounds dialed-up. I wonder if perhaps the cue had originally begun when Priscilla does her Emma Lazarus recitation?

By the way, the absence of music under certain critical scenes is also very laudable.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2004 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

This is one of my favorite scores of the 40s. I hope we will get someday a rerecording of this score.

Some of the music was composed by Charles Previn, or?

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2004 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

The German language version contains a score by Austrian composer Kurt Heuser. (I suppose the m&e didin't exist any longer) Not brilliant, but more interesting than Skinner's. Heuser takes a similar approach but overall his style reminds me more of Tiomkin... (Useless tidbit #731)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2004 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

Yes, I think Heuser´s score was not bad. At least It was one of the few (the only?) German replacement scores which was right on.

On the other side the German versions of Cat People or The Maltese Falcon have some of the worst music, that I have ever heard in a Golden Age movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2004 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Yes, you know I'm out here, Ray!

SABOTEUR was recently screened in Hollywood at an Art Directors Guild event honoring Robert Boyle, (whose first film was THE WOLF MAN), and there was much discussion remarking on the effective use of silence in that famous climax.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2004 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   Thomas Scofield   (Member)

How about somebody releasing Skinner's incredibly moving re-score to the excellent but rarely seen, but wonderful Russian cartoon THE SNOW QUEEN. I saw this a number of times on TV growing up and finally found the soundtrack album, all bummed up as usual, but a couple of intact cues remain. I always found this film and music would always have me sobbing uncontrollably, it was so beautiful. Just wonderful. Along with Baxter's ALAKAZAM THE GREAT my favorite orchestral animation score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2004 - 11:10 PM   
 By:   PeterD   (Member)

I know quite a while ago John Morgan said that he and William Stromberg hoped to do a Skinner album at some point, including SABOTEUR, but with Marco Polo cutting down on that sort of thing, I suppose the chances of it ever happening are, unfortunately, pretty slim.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I know quite a while ago John Morgan said that he and William Stromberg hoped to do a Skinner album at some point, including SABOTEUR, but with Marco Polo cutting down on that sort of thing, I suppose the chances of it ever happening are, unfortunately, pretty slim.

Actually, all kidding aside I'm pretty hopeful that when they resume production next year either the first or second album they're going to do will be A&C MEET FRANKENSTEIN. The question is, what to pair it with. SABOTEUR is a possibility, though I would probably vote for HARVEY as a better compliment. SABOTEUR and ARABIAN NIGHTS would make a dynamite double bill.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   John Morgan   (Member)

As usual, Ray is quite observant and full of erudition.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

As usual, Ray is quite observant and full of erudition.

HEY, WATCH THAT!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   PeterD   (Member)

Well, that certainly sounds hopeful . . . I think. Anyways, I would buy SABOTEUR and anything in a minute.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)



Actually, all kidding aside I'm pretty hopeful that when they resume production next year either the first or second album they're going to do will be A&C MEET FRANKENSTEIN. The question is, what to pair it with. SABOTEUR is a possibility, though I would probably vote for HARVEY as a better compliment. SABOTEUR and ARABIAN NIGHTS would make a dynamite double bill.


Ray, do you know, if anything of the Skinner score is available on tapes, acetates? Would be a nice recording to own, maybe coupled with the German score which has some effective moments (I really like the "Rain", "Soda City" and "The Circus").
Discussing early Hitchcock: Wasn't there a LP of "Rebecca" at some time? Are these acetates still extant or did this LP go back to the m&e track used for the Criterion DVDs and lasers?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Thomas Scofield   (Member)

John Morgan:

Please keep up you superlative work. Give me more Frank Skinner! By the way, are you familiar with Skinner heartrending rescore to the Russian animation classic, THE SNOW QUEEN, it is truly a lost masterpiece?

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   John Morgan   (Member)

No, Thomas. Tell me more.

Skinner has always been a favorite since childhood. A lot of my "growing up" films were produced by Universal Pictures...the horror films, the westerns, Deanna Durbin, Abbott and Costello, Olsen and Johnson, the action films of Richard Arlen-Andy Devine those Donald O'Conner musicals, the Technicolor Maria Montez vulgarities, and many others. I seem drawn to the forties output more than his fifties music, but I think the films themselves helped shape that opinion.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   Thomas Scofield   (Member)

This is what I know, John, in 1959 Univeral aquired a beautifully animated 1955 color version of a Soviet Cartoon (I think anime fans would love it) of H.C. Andersen's THE SNOW QUEEN, they added a silly prologue and epilogue with Art Linkletter, but otherwise the film is complete. I actually saw this film in a theatre in 1961 at the age of 6, and it literally blew me away. The images, the music, even the dubbing was very well done. This was the same year I saw MASTER OF THE WORLD at a theatre and it was the one-two punch of Skinner and Baxter that lead me to the love of film music and "serious music."

A soundtrack was issued on Decca with a lot of horrible narration, babble, etc., but a few (beautiful) Skinner tracks were left alone. The film was fairly popular at the time, but seems to have completely faded from existence, it is truly a lost masterpiece and if you like Skinner at his most heartbreaking your in for a real shock, it's that good. I'd rate it right up there with his best '40s work, and that's no joke.

Probably, not much help, but this music and film has haunted me my whole life and I had to at least mention it.

Ditto on Univeral, John, it was my favorite studio for many years, and I love all the films you've mentioned, also.

 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)



Ray, do you know, if anything of the Skinner score is available on tapes, acetates? Would be a nice recording to own, maybe coupled with the German score which has some effective moments (I really like the "Rain", "Soda City" and "The Circus").
Discussing early Hitchcock: Wasn't there a LP of "Rebecca" at some time? Are these acetates still extant or did this LP go back to the m&e track used for the Criterion DVDs and lasers?


There are, reportedly, acetates to SABOTEUR. I assume they are at the midwestern University where the Skinner collection is on deposit. And, yes, there was a bootleg LP of REBECCA taken from very nice-sounding acetates. The flip side is OBJECTIVE, BURMA!

By the way, tonight's our Tuesday "off-the-beaten-track" screening. We're running FIREMAN, SAVE MY CHILD. This is another one from Universal (International) and features an early score by Henry Mancini (as well as Herman Stein).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 22, 2004 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I too enjoy Saboteur very much along with the excellent Frank Skinner score. I watch the film every so often.

Sure hope John will be able to continue the Marco Polo/Naxos series next year. The first CD done should be A&C MEET FRANKENSTEIN !!!
(Saboteur would be great with it.) Start working on it John !!!

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Score Whore   (Member)

Great film, watched it tonight. First viewing since 1999.

Terrific score, definitely CD release worthy.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2013 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'd go so far as to say this is one of the best scores ever written for a Hitchcock film...totally confused by the person who preferred the German version even though they said it isn't anything special.

On the other hand, I dislike most of Tiomkin's music for Hitchcock.

I'd be interested in ANY Frank Skinner releases from our beloved specialty labels, but this would be near the top of the list.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2018 - 11:12 PM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Yes, I think Heuser´s score was not bad. At least It was one of the few (the only?) German replacement scores which was right on.

On the other side the German versions of Cat People or The Maltese Falcon have some of the worst music, that I have ever heard in a Golden Age movie.


I wonder if anyone has noticed this before, but the Heuser "Saboteur" main title has been dubbed into the German version of "Lo sceicco bianco". Maybe this score has not been specifically written for "Saboteur", but was stock music after all. Maybe there are other examples?

 
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