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 Posted:   Jul 6, 2004 - 10:52 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I love this album, and not just for those kitschy reasons that many mention. I find the album wonderfully... comforting. For me, "The Transformed Man" purifies the soul, it takes me to that special place where Shatner is King, Landlord and Capo di tutti capi of all that is. Magnificent arrangements by Don Ralke. I'm only a casual Star Trek fan, so it's not a case of Shatner Worship on that level, but with The Transformed Man one has the Kirk-era Shatner at the peak of his powers.

But platitudes aside, does anyone think that Bill was making a serious piece of art and it turned out as it did, or was it merely a matter of campy fun, like an episode of Batman?

I am also of the few who finds genuine pathos in "Elegy For the Brave."

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2004 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

The Shat can sing? eek

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2004 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The Shat can sing? eek

No, he is more of a "song stylist" in that he speaks the lyrics with all the requisite pauses and hammy phrasing. In other words, the usual Shatnerian Genius.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2004 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Well..
When this stuff originally came out, It had to be aimed at smokers of the "peace pipe".. (Incense, candles, ahh, other "stuff" and inflatable peace sign pillows all round'.)I find these pieces by Shatner wildly over the top, overacted (what's new?) and hysterically funny! And perhaps in that little overacting, "try as I may" heart of his, the guy was once serious about this stuff ! Shatner IS a genius ..If for but two things.. One, He KNOWS how to make money..Two, He's a pisser in doing so..And he knows it......
These recordings are all over the net.. Along with the Nimoy stuff....A whole other topic!

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2004 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

*Sigh* All the things I could've been if I'd had William Shatner as my father!

I always got the impression that he was playing it for real on this album, and only in the 1990s when the Priceline commercials started getting attention was Shatner poking fun at his past. Add the classic appearance on SNL back in '86 and you do have a man who knows how to laugh at himself all the way to the bank.

I also believe he and Nimoy (along with Michael Dorn) have made some moolah narrating all of those space exploration shows. Heck, Shatner was landing those gigs in between tv movie appearances during those dark days before the Trek franchise got going again. Hard to believe he's 73, isn't it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2004 - 11:57 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Shatner should ( and would ) have been a "has been" years ago..
If not for one thing...STAR TREK.. Period...(And he knows that.. Too )
pbb,
Pssst....The campfire scene..Trek 5....I love it.. I get emotional.. (Keep it a secret, ok?)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2004 - 12:05 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

*Sigh* All the things I could've been if I'd had William Shatner as my father!

I always got the impression that he was playing it for real on this album, and only in the 1990s when the Priceline commercials started getting attention was Shatner poking fun at his past. Add the classic appearance on SNL back in '86 and you do have a man who knows how to laugh at himself all the way to the bank.

I also believe he and Nimoy (along with Michael Dorn) have made some moolah narrating all of those space exploration shows. Heck, Shatner was landing those gigs in between tv movie appearances during those dark days before the Trek franchise got going again. Hard to believe he's 73, isn't it?


Not really!
I'm 41 years old, and remember watching the ST reruns on Channel 11 in NY at 16 and 17 years old in the late 70's and early 80's..So Shatner's age is, ahh, just about right to me!

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2004 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)


pbb,
Pssst....The campfire scene..Trek 5....I love it.. I get emotional.. (Keep it a secret, ok?)


Jeez, you make it sound like an "After School Special" kind of secret! Besides, why keep it under wraps? I LOVED TREK V, and I'm a proud defender of the film. I'm also a "T.J. Hooker" apologist!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2004 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

That campfire scene..In all seriousness, was the best part of that really lousy film..The love between those beloved "characters" ...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2004 - 12:29 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

pbb,
We were bonding, (mind melding??) and you had to mention "TJ HOOKER" !! Madawn!!!! Ohfffffhah!

 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2004 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Anz, I've come to realize that Shatner is just another "adopted" father figure for me. My own father and I have an awkward relationship and he was rarely around during my childhood, so I naturally gravitated towards hammy, melodramatic actors who were manly to the core (not that my dad wasn't;being a Vietnam combat vet and all...) Shatner was there for me every day in reruns and whether it be in the standard gold shirt or rebellious and individualistic green wrap, he was THERE!
Now let's have no more bashing of "Dad's" movie!
Or late and non-lamented tv series!
I think we should both take a Shatnerian...pause...and reflect on all the hours of entertainment he has given us!

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2004 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Finally some respect! William Shatner has been nominated for an Emmy for "Outstanding Guest Actor In a Drama Series" for his role in ABC's The Practice.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2004 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

Bust a move, dog!

Yeah, Shatner's a master of poker-faced self-satire...and he seems to understand it all works better if you don't quite buy that he gets what's funny about him. Or something like that.

I saw him on Conan O'Brian some time ago, and Conan wanted to bring up The Transformed Man; Shatner seemed genuiney non-plussed for a minute there. Finally, when Conan wouldn't drop it, he snapped "Oh, why even SAY IT!" He was a heap of squirming flesh. Either that, or he was shrewdly affecting his humiliation. I just couldn't read the guy. You'd think those lounge-act Priceline ads--which they never should've dropped--would be ironclad evidence that he has a sense of humor about himself.

At any rate, I think they guy's a great, idosyncratic performer; I was sorry that some of his infamous Kirk-isms were trimmed from the latest cut of Star Trek: The Motion Picutre (a testy look here, an "OH, my God!" there...and a "V-ger, V-GER, V-GER!," etc.)

Can anyone confirm whether he's going to be teamed with James Spader in that spinoff of The Practice next Fall? It'd be something to see these guys try to out-eccentric each other every week. Hope it happens.

The dude gets around, too. I live in upstate, N.Y., and he was recently here for some kind of paint ball warfare extravaganza. Someone ought to tell him he is 73, or he's going to get himself "beamed up" before his time, from exhaustion!


--Coop



 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2004 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Love those new priceline commercials... Leonard and Bill should take it on the road! Just like Mookie and Buckner..

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2004 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Love those new priceline commercials... Leonard and Bill should take it on the road! Just like Mookie and Buckner..



Yes! The only commercials that aren't put on "Mute."

And once again, how 'bout that Emmy nod?!?

Respect, people...respect.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2004 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

I think he deserved a nomination, ahh, "somewhere" for "Free Enterprise".. "Haiiiilll Caeeeeeeeesar!" ..eek

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2004 - 12:11 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Bust a move, dog!

Yeah, Shatner's a master of poker-faced self-satire...and he seems to understand it all works better if you don't quite buy that he gets what's funny about him. Or something like that.

I saw him on Conan O'Brian some time ago, and Conan wanted to bring up The Transformed Man; Shatner seemed genuiney non-plussed for a minute there. Finally, when Conan wouldn't drop it, he snapped "Oh, why even SAY IT!" He was a heap of squirming flesh. Either that, or he was shrewdly affecting his humiliation. I just couldn't read the guy. You'd think those lounge-act Priceline ads--which they never should've dropped--would be ironclad evidence that he has a sense of humor about himself.

At any rate, I think they guy's a great, idosyncratic performer; I was sorry that some of his infamous Kirk-isms were trimmed from the latest cut of Star Trek: The Motion Picutre (a testy look here, an "OH, my God!" there...and a "V-ger, V-GER, V-GER!," etc.)

Can anyone confirm whether he's going to be teamed with James Spader in that spinoff of The Practice next Fall? It'd be something to see these guys try to out-eccentric each other every week. Hope it happens.

The dude gets around, too. I live in upstate, N.Y., and he was recently here for some kind of paint ball warfare extravaganza. Someone ought to tell him he is 73, or he's going to get himself "beamed up" before his time, from exhaustion!


--Coop





Shatner, I believe last year, was on Stern promoting this paintball stint he was doing..He is always funny on Stern . He ALWAYS allows Howard to goof on him non stop to the point that he always gives up trying to get a word in!
EXCEPT, when he's promoting something.. This "celebrity paintball" nonsense, or whatever else he's up to.. Vh1 walk ons, "Barbary Coast" dvd's....(Please, Nooooo!)

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Happy....Birthday...tothemanwecall...Captain. James. T. Kirk!

I'll be sure to spin THE TRANSFORMED MAN this evening in honor of this "high", "holy" day.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I bought "The transformed man" as a gamble. I can't reproduce anymore what made me buy it but one thing's for sure, and that is that I never regretted it. No my like for this CD is not in the "so bad it's good" trend. I leave that for Chuck Norris; peace be with him and blessings upon his name.

The track "Spleen" however is a very cliché heavy handed attempt at being artsy. Even the title is a cliché that could have been taken straight out of an episode of "The monkees".
As for the Shat covered time tested classics (maybe I sould rephrase that), I find them soothing and sometimes much better than a lot of lauded prestigious recordings.
If anything, I would love to have the music as a separate CD. The arrangements are very soothing, and do indeed evoke a sense of safety and comfort. What struck me the first time I heard the CD is how much the arrangement make the music sound like it were taken straight from the Star Trek TV series.

I seriously believe that Shatner was 1000% serious about this recording.

As for him hamming up himself, there is the scene in one of the best US comedies of the 90s: "Third rock from the sun" where he arrives as the big head and he tells that he flew in a plane and swore that he saw something sitting on the wing.

Yes Shatner has enriched my life; as Kirk, as big head and as a transformed man.

Thanks sir.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2010 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I bought "The transformed man" as a gamble. I can't reproduce anymore what made me buy it but one thing's for sure, and that is that I never regretted it. No my like for this CD is not in the "so bad it's good" trend. I leave that for Chuck Norris; peace be with him and blessings upon his name.

The track "Spleen" however is a very cliché heavy handed attempt at being artsy. Even the title is a cliché that could have been taken straight out of an episode of "The monkees".
As for the Shat covered time tested classics (maybe I sould rephrase that), I find them soothing and sometimes much better than a lot of lauded prestigious recordings.
If anything, I would love to have the music as a separate CD. The arrangements are very soothing, and do indeed evoke a sense of safety and comfort. What struck me the first time I heard the CD is how much the arrangement make the music sound like it were taken straight from the Star Trek TV series.

I seriously believe that Shatner was 1000% serious about this recording.

As for him hamming up himself, there is the scene in one of the best US comedies of the 90s: "Third rock from the sun" where he arrives as the big head and he tells that he flew in a plane and swore that he saw something sitting on the wing.

Yes Shatner has enriched my life; as Kirk, as big head and as a transformed man.

Thanks sir.

D.S.

Yeah, but you forgot the punchline to the Third Rock bit, which was when Lithgow (who played in the part in the Twilight Zone movie) says, "The same thing happened to me!" One of the all-time great examples of intertextual referencing in TV history, right up there with the ending of the Newhart series.

 
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