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 Posted:   Oct 6, 2004 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

A professor at VMI has nominated Bob Dylan for the Nobel Prize for Literature. The professor has nominated him, if I remember correctly, since 1996.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2004 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

Well congratulations to Robert Zimmerman! big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2004 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   The Blue Mule   (Member)

Sorry i hope he doesnt get it.

This is crap he and other Pop musicians do not deserve to be on the same page with Nobel Prize, with all their anti american blabbering, using women, drugs and just acting like useless punks from the streets, these over paid "Talents" have enough already.

They dont save the world, or heal, or help, they just take take take and act like irrisponsible children,I have nothing in common with these pop musicians and i believe they have enough with what they have already and deserve not a bit more false praise.

Hell Arafat got one. That is the biggest joke of all. This is one screwed up society to even think that pop musicians deserve Nobel Prizes. Whats next no christmas trees at christmas? oh wait the ACLU in on it.


Depressed.

Rich.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

I'd say Dylan is not guilty pertaining to the charges in the above post. Or if he was at one point in time, I'd guess they have become time-barred a long time ago.
Also, I cannot see "anti-American blabbering" in his songs, I'd even say that his voice is as American as you can get (and notwithstanding the fact that the Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily have to be pro-American in its choice).
I also don't see why the winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature should have to "save the world, or heal, or help". That's what the prizes for Peace and Physiology/Medicine are for. And as for the literary achievement of Bob Dylan's texts, I think he'd be worthy of the prize. Altough, and here I agree with Rich, he doesn't really need it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Well, looks like we have to postpone this question to next year. Elfriede Jelinek was just announced as this year's recipient.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   The Blue Mule   (Member)

(and notwithstanding the fact that the Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily have to be pro-American in its choice).




Yes that is why Araft got his "Peace Prize" and i'm sure hes living up to his praise.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Just to set the record straight: Arafat shared the prize in 1994 with Shimon Perez (then Foreign Minister of Israel) and Yitzhak Rabin (then Prime Minister of Israel).
But before this turns into a political debate, I will just state that "Things have changed" (Bob Dylan, Academy Award for Best Song, 2000).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   evanevans   (Member)

Oh please. Dylan for Nobel? I think there are much more qualified out there.

Evan Evans

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

hey what do you expect from a guy that wrote "everyone must get stoned"
well get the prize everytime.
only kidding , I think it a bit hard to beleave myself.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 8:13 PM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Goodness me, "Everybody must get stoned" is a play on words, and not the worst ever put to music. IMHO, of course.

Really, I don't think Dylan needs the Nobel Prize, and he definitely doesn't need the 1.1 million Dollars attached to it. But if you look at his output as a poet over the last four decades, it is not entirely idiotic to think that he might have deserved it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2004 - 9:01 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

Now Ive got that song in my head,
well they stone you da da da da da
and they stone you da da da da da
ahhhhhhhhhhh.
just kidding
he he
sd

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2004 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Anyone who cares enough about film scores to be posting or lurking on this site may want to think twice before knocking groundbreaking "pop" artists in any medium or genre. The lines between "pop" art and "high" art have been blurred for decades, and film is a prime example of this phenomenon. It's a quick hop from knocking an artist of Dylan's stature to dismissing an artist such as, say, Bernard Herrmann as merely a "film music composer." There are plenty of classical snobs out there that would dismiss the entire body of work discussed here. When placed into the context of 20th Century poetry and pop lyrics, Dylan stands as an important figure, regardless of one's personal aesthetic.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2004 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   The Blue Mule   (Member)

Yeah Yeah yeah, they still dont deserve half the bloated praise they get. If you talk Songs, sure they might inspire here and there, but bands or individual musicians? they just do it for the cash.
Please all this over blown popular music saves the world crap is out of control. Its big money and thats all, but who cares for songs that repeat the same moronic lyric umpteen times to a beat that we all heard before and is about as inspiring as a cat scraping his claws on a chalk board, Pop music is bland and is about as life saving as a black widow eating her mate,and as boring as watching milk go sour.

Certain songs might be made well, but don't start this, holier then thou artist that gets into my soul with his songs crap. ugh!

The Vanga Bus is commin!!!!!!

Rich

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2014 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Dylan played on a music festival in my hometown yesterday. I'm not interested in his music so I didn't go. There are zero photographs or film clips from the show, as that was not allowed, and other artists were told to LOOK AWAY if they happened to see him backstage.

What a schmuck. No respect.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2014 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Pam
I think there are more people here to
see the Maharishi than there were to see
the Dylan concert. I covered the Dylan
concert ... which gave me chills.
Especially when he sang "She takes just
like a woman And she makes love just
like a woman Yes, she does And she aches
just like a woman But she breaks just
like a little girl."
Up to that I guess the most charismatic
event I covered was Mick's Birthday when
the Stones played Madison Square Garden.

ALVY
(Laughing)
Man, that's great. That's just great.

Pam
You catch Dylan?

ALVY
(Coughing)
Me? No, no. I-I couldn't make it that
night- My-my raccoon had hepatitis.

Pam
You have a raccoon?

ALVY
(Gesturing)
Tsch, a few.

Pam
The only word for this is trans-plendent
It's trans-plendent.

ALVY
I can think of another word.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2014 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Dylan played on a music festival in my hometown yesterday. I'm not interested in his music so I didn't go. There are zero photographs or film clips from the show, as that was not allowed, and other artists were told to LOOK AWAY if they happened to see him backstage.

What a schmuck. No respect.


Weird. Diva tendencies there.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2014 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Go get 'em Bob.

I recall when Dylan visited Ireland for some concerts some years ago, he did the weirdest thing.

He dressed in an old anorak with a hood, and stood outside the public phone-booths at Belfast International Airport. He just STOOD there, no security, said nothing, paced up and down, ignored everyone, didn't announce himself, and watched as a crowd gathered. He behaved like he was looking for someone. Yet he was, otherwise, totally uncontactable during the tour. No-one knew why he did it. Wss he waiting for a phone call? It was like a Hitchcock cameo in one of his pictures.

Bob knows how to create the correct recluse/projection vessel ambience, and he knows who he is. He makes himself, that's an art. As regards the 'Don't speak to him on stage', that's humour, he has a sense of humour, and who knows if it helps him concentrate before a gig? People do many things before gigs. On ordinary film sets, extras and set people are, as a rule, not permitted to speak to pricipal players, especially stars. Let's face it, no-one on that bill is as big as BD.


Does he deserve a Nobel prize? That's for the committee to decide: it's their prize to give. But despite what some say, the Bob Geldofs and Brangelinas have a great place: they know they have the attention, and use it for good, what else can they do? What else SHOULD they do?

Music's as important or as insignif as people want it to be. YOU'RE the fans, don't shoot yourselves in the foot.

 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2014 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)

Dylan will play In Helsingborg , Sweden tomorrow (Monday 14/7) and it will probably be filmed without him notice it *L*
I´m no fan of his and his music at all and do not like his voice at all, but he is obviously a living legend, but Nobel prize???Please...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 13, 2014 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   McMillan & Husband   (Member)

Wow, the mule was certainly in a blue mood that day.

 
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