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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2018 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Last April's TCM Classic Film Festival featured two roadshow presentations complete with overture, intermission, entr'acte and exit music. And the curtains opened and closed just like they should.

GRAND PRIX (in Cinerama at the Dome with a post-screening interview with Eva Marie Saint)
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (at the Chinese). I'd never seen the curtains there before.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2018 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I recently saw the re-issue of 2001 in all its roadshow regalia. Other than a few seconds of really bad frame damage during the "Dawn of Man" sequence, it was as good a presentation as you will see with 70mm.

 
 
 Posted:   May 13, 2023 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I just re-watched this one and absolutely agree with every word of Mr. Elbert’s review. This was shown in NY’s Cinerama Theatre c. 1975 and was a delight to see on the curved screen even though it wasn’t a Cinerama production.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/finians-rainbow-1968

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 2:20 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I just re-watched this one and absolutely agree with every word of Mr. Elbert’s review. This was shown in NY’s Cinerama Theatre c. 1975 and was a delight to see on the curved screen even though it wasn’t a Cinerama production.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/finians-rainbow-1968


It wasn't even a 70mm production. And why were they showing it in 1975??? In fact, I can find no evidence that it EVER played the Cinerama Theater in NY - not originally in 1968 and certainly not in 1975.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Steven Lloyd   (Member)

Though all my books are currently boxed prior to a move, I'm sure that 2001 was shot on 65mm stock (which required 70mm release prints to accommodate the soundtrack). Howard did state that the viewing he recalls was only circa 1975, acknowledging that it could have been anywhere from '74 to '76. Finally, it's possible that many films got revived for theatrical screenings in New York City without necessarily seeing national reissue that same year.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   paul r   (Member)

I just re-watched this one and absolutely agree with every word of Mr. Elbert’s review. This was shown in NY’s Cinerama Theatre c. 1975 and was a delight to see on the curved screen even though it wasn’t a Cinerama production.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/finians-rainbow-1968


I saw Finian’s Rainbow at the NY Warner Cinerama Theater back in the day it started its run. By that time the Warner was split into three theaters. I believe that FR played at the upstairs theater . Screen was large and it might have been in blow up 70mm but it was not Cinerama.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   paul r   (Member)

I just re-watched this one and absolutely agree with every word of Mr. Elbert’s review. This was shown in NY’s Cinerama Theatre c. 1975 and was a delight to see on the curved screen even though it wasn’t a Cinerama production.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/finians-rainbow-1968


It wasn't even a 70mm production. And why were they showing it in 1975??? In fact, I can find no evidence that it EVER played the Cinerama Theater in NY - not originally in 1968 and certainly not in 1975.


The Warner in NY in 1978 held a 70mm movie musical festival. I saw South Pacific but it is possible that Finian’s Rainbow was one of the other films.

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yes, that must be the one. Thank you, paul r. I recall also seeing My Fair Lady during that little festival. Pretty sure this has been mentioned before so I'll do some digging.

PS
from a thread and entry dated 16 January 2001:

In the 70s the Cinerama Theatre in NYC had a revival of musical films that ran over several weekends. I distinctly remember that "depth" feeling in presentations of My Fair Lady and Finian's Rainbow. Neither was filmed in Cinemascope or whatever per se, but the picture was projected onto the huge curved screen and produced said illusory effect.

PPS
https://www.nytimes.com/1978/02/17/archives/family-movies-making-a-comeback-broadway-at-the-cinerama-whats-good.html

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

LOL thank you, Bob. Nice to confirm that the memory has been sharp both 23 and 45 years after the fact. smile

 
 Posted:   May 14, 2023 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

LOL thank you, Bob. Nice to confirm that the memory has been sharp both 23 and 45 years after the fact. smile

Ditto, Bob. Thanks!

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)


Then there's certain Films which did not Roadshow in Philly but I suspect they may have been in New York. Can anyone tell me if the following were Roadshows in New York: "Lord Jim", "The Great Race", "Cromwell", "The Taming of the Shrew" (Taylor & Burton), "The Cardinal" and "55 Days at Peking"?


LORD JIM was a roadshow in New York, because a friend’s mother saw it there, and later remarked what had been cut when she saw it again. You can tell the Intermission occurred after Eli Wallach meets his end. The Entr’acte was included on the soundtrack lp and CD. At one point, Columbia announced a Laser release of the roadshow version, but it never happened. The original souvenir program can be found on E-bay.
I saw 55 DAYS AT PEKING in 1963 at a theater in D.C., where it was in continuous showings, though the souvenir program was on sale at the candy counter. Years later, the Laser release included the Intermission card, which I hadn’t seen in any theater.
I saw TAMING OF THE SHREW in its initial engagement at Cinema I in New York. Not a roadshow, though they also sold the program at the candy counter.
I saw CROMWELL in its initial engagement in New York. Continuous showings, no souvenir program, though I found that later on E-bay.
Many films were roadshows in England, but not the U.S.: CROMWELL, WATERLOO, LADY CAROLINE LAMB, THE MUSIC LOVERS, THE BOYFRIEND, MAHLER, and BEQUEST TO THE NATION. (I could be wrong about their being roadshows, but all these did have souvenir programs.)

Other films not mentioned here were also roadshows, like LOST HORIZON (1937), trimmed by quite a lot later),and QUO VADIS (1951), which has never been restored. Likewise, THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE (1964) has never been completely restored, either, with reported deleted scenes still lingering somewhere.

FYI: There is a comprehensive book about roadshows: MOVIE ROADSHOWS A History and Filmography of Reserved-Seat Limited Showings, 1911-1973 by Kim R. Holston

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

does anyone know if THE EGYPTIAN had an INTERMISSION when it was first released?


The place for an intermission would have been when Sinuhe departs Egypt, but I doubt the film ever had one. It did have a very nice souvenir program, now occasionally available on E-bay.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   paul r   (Member)

The Cardinal played roadshow in NYC at The DeMille Theater. Had Intermission. Nice souvenir program.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 10:42 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)


I saw TAMING OF THE SHREW in its initial engagement at Cinema I in New York. Not a roadshow, though they also sold the program at the candy counter.



THE TAMING OF THE SHREW premiered in New York on 8 March 1967 at The Coronet theater. While it may not have been a roadshow (I'm not entirely sure how we are defining that), it was certainly a reserved seat attraction.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

THE GREAT RACE opened in New York on 16 September 1965 at the Radio City Music Hall on a continuous performance basis. (Has there ever been a reserved seat attraction at Radio City?)




So, where did the roadshow trappings (overture, intermission, entr'acte, exit music) come from? The film premiered in Los Angeles on 1 July 1965 at the Pantages Theatre in Hollywood as a reserved seat attraction.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 11:24 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

55 DAYS AT PEKING opened in New York on 29 May 1963 with continuous performances at four theaters.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2023 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

LORD JIM had its American premiere on 25 February 1965 in New York at the Loew's State theater. It then played on a reserved seat basis.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2023 - 3:02 AM   
 By:   paul r   (Member)

All of these films had elaborate souvenir programs. Saw Lord Jim at Loews State . Even in 70mm it was tough to sit through.

 
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