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Most of us were only talking about John Williams' music.
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More poorly-acted, badly written, boring boring boring CGI, anyone? Not me!
It's quite possible that you are you right..
HOWEVER
Don't you think that keeping an open mind and passing judgement on a film without the benefit of of SEEING it first is pointless and grossly unfair to EVERYONE involved?
Ford A. Thaxton
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I COMPLETELY agree Dana. It's nearly as equally heartbreaking and disinteresting as Bryan Singer's annoying, needless spineless self-praising studio-salivating fanflick of a "Superman movie"
It's amazing that you can make such a statement BEFORE A SINGLE FOOT OF FILM has been shot of this film.
Can you say "Pulling an opinion from my ass..."
Which is exactly what you've done.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Don't you think that keeping an open mind and passing judgement on a film without the benefit of of SEEING it first is pointless and grossly unfair to EVERYONE involved?
Ford A. Thaxton
Judging from the other Star Wars movies George Lucas directed himself, I think it is fair to say that this one will remain in the same style and disappoint many...
I had high hopes for Phantom Menace, I had low expectations for Attack of the Clones, and now... well, I shall stay home 
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Apr 16, 2005 - 2:06 PM
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Please Ford- don't insult both of us. The film might not even be shot on 35mm, rumours are indicating High Definition format (Panavision Genesis), and filming started a while ago. You are loosing your edge, catch up! 
Secondly, the movie is being directed by Bryan Singer who made two miserably mediocre Xmen movies, and now he's been lazily chosen to do Superman- obviously because clearly nobody else in Hollywood could do a Superman movie (the same stupid mentality that has had Danny Elfman plugging the same tripe on every Superhero soundtrack for the last 15 years). If Singer is such a worshipping Donner fan, why the hell is he patronising all of Donner's efforts from 25 years ago with a soul-sapping remake? The marketing "blogs" for the movie are enough to make you puke (www.bluetights.com if you have a strong stomach).
- the script, certainly the love triangle is a shameless rehash of Spider-man 2 and in his infinite super-human directorial wisdom Singer has cast his Xmen star James Marsden as the "son of the newspaper editor love interest" reprsising his fifth wheel love triangle role from Singers Xmen movies!-
most of all however, this is a big obvious diversion plan from Warner Bros to take priority off unveiling the Richard Donner edit of Superman 2, which will probably never see the light of day. The Superman movies never worked- they made four films that were plagued with horrible production problems, but they tried and did a respectable job considering the source material and the SCALE of the productions (especially parts 1 and 2) and nobody got to see Donner's 2, the big Kahuna that Hpollywood politics have prevented us from seeing for the last 25 years. Surely if Bryan Singer was such a mammoth Donner Superman fan he'd fight for Donner's S2 to make it to DVD, as oppose to aiding the studio who won't recognise the project make their big beard?
Bryan Singer is IMO South Park's depiction of David Blaine: a publicity fuelled pied piper fooling everyone and himself that he is reinventing the wheel.
Oh, and they almost cast Hugh Laurie as Perry White. That's how visionary Brian Singer is...
Hey Ford- I hear Judge Reinhold is doing Beethoven's Fifth sometime soon- better not judge it before it gets released! Would be foolish to dismiss it!
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Apr 16, 2005 - 2:14 PM
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More poorly-acted, badly written, boring boring boring CGI, anyone? Not me!
Considering that the most interesting (first 3) STAR WARS pictures have been permanently altered, and Episodes 1 and 2 were so desperately awful, why in the world should I or anyone else giving a flying about REVENGE OF THE SITH? Perhaps a mediocre box office turnout will convince George Lucas to finally pull the plug on this overblown mini-series for good. One can hope. I'm sick of hearing about it.
Sorry, just had to give the counter POV.
I've seen the second Sith trailer, and it couldn't look cooler. This may be the prequel episode that is least worthy of your ignorance.
Whether the Star Wars prequels offer the same kind of fun and whiz-bang thrills of the original trilogy or not (and there is a good deal of that), I'm really enjoying the whole saga of political maneuvering and manipulation as Palpatine and his undisclosed Sith accomplices slowly overtake the Republic. Jar-Jar aside, these films are drier and more cerebral in that sense. I'm impressed with how much thought Lucas has put into the process of how this society changed, fundamentally. I find the whole thing pretty credible, and frightening. You know, the people wake up way too late...after they no longer have any real representation in government, after a madman has complete control of a brand-spanking, new military. That's about it. You're in a new age of Empire.
The fact that the whole thing can play like a metaphor for the loss of checks and balances in our own government... Well, eesh. Timely, timely, and even mo' frightening. Okay, it doesn't fit like a glove, but one could make a case for certain cautionary parallels. Especially in Episode II, where Palpatine conspires to create a sense of imminent threat in order to be granted "emergency powers"--which he swears he'll surrender when the crisis is averted--to defend the Republic. Sound familiar?
I think the prequel trilogy works better as a political saga--the most spectacular you've ever seen--than personal, character story. And whatever their flaws, they're fascinating films...and it's going to be something to think about all six of these movies as one work.
Heck, I've also had a blast watching each film bring us closer to the original storm troopers as we knew them. Almost there, now. The Fett-like helmets are rounding out a little, that top fin is a little shorter...
--Coop
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Judging from the other Star Wars movies George Lucas directed himself, I think it is fair to say that this one will remain in the same style and disappoint many...
Well, not for anything, Lucas directed his first Star Wars fil in 1977 and look how cool that came out.
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Apr 16, 2005 - 2:25 PM
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Personally i don't really care for Star Wars.
I quite enjoy most of the music in The Phantom Menace, but can't stand the film, just found it a dull excuse to sell lunch-boxes. Enjoyed the second film in a sort of Ray Harryhausen-light type way, with the monsters at the end, but only saw it the once and never thought about watching it again. Thought the Jedi were a bit tactically naive just standing in a big circle in the middle of an arena and deserved the kicking they got. Shambolic. The Attack of the Clones score is my least favourite Williams score. There are moments i like, but i found it mostly unmemorable. I'll probably watch the Sith film at the pictures the once, it has the potential to be decent (mind you so did the other prequels), but if i miss it it won't bother me too much. But i'll be getting the score for sure, it sounds great!
This is the final Star Wars film, right? so we should be thankful for that.
Also, for those of you in Britain, don't you think Ewan McGregor looks a bit like Swap-Shop era Noel Edmonds in that beard?
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Well, not for anything, Lucas directed his first Star Wars fil in 1977 and look how cool that came out.
Just have to interject here that IHMO the differences in the first SW film and the new ones completely supports the old Hollywood adage that sometimes your limitations are your best asset, because it forces you to be more creative.
Give a filmmaker too much freedom and they tend to lose focus... give them barely enough and they have to fight tooth and nail to make what they are doing succeed.
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Apr 16, 2005 - 2:39 PM
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Dana Wilcox
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I've seen the second Sith trailer, and it couldn't look cooler. This may be the prequel episode that is least worthy of your ignorance.
Whether the Star Wars prequels offer the same kind of fun and whiz-bang thrills of the original trilogy or not (and there is a good deal of that), I'm really enjoying the whole saga of political maneuvering and manipulation as Palpatine and his undisclosed Sith accomplices slowly overtake the Republic. Jar-Jar aside, these films are drier and more cerebral in that sense. I'm impressed with how much thought Lucas has put into the process of how this society changed, fundamentally. I find the whole thing pretty credible, and frightening. You know, the people wake up way too late...after they no longer have any real representation in government, after a madman has complete control of a brand-spanking, new military. That's about it. You're in a new age of Empire.
The fact that the whole thing can play like a metaphor for the loss of checks and balances in our own government... Well, eesh. Timely, timely, and even mo' frightening. Okay, it doesn't fit like a glove, but one could make a case for certain cautionary parallels. Especially in Episode II, where Palpatine conspires to create a sense of imminent threat in order to be granted "emergency powers"--which he swears he'll surrender when the crisis is averted--to defend the Republic. Sound familiar?
I think the prequel trilogy works better as a political saga--the most spectacular you've ever seen--than personal, character story. And whatever their flaws, they're fascinating films...and it's going to be something to think about all six of these movies as one work.
Heck, I've also had a blast watching each film bring us closer to the original storm troopers as we knew them. Almost there, now. The Fett-like helmets are rounding out a little, that top fin is a little shorter...
--Coop
I'm glad you find them rewarding, Coop, and I criticize no man's (or woman's) taste in films. God knows, I have many guilty pleasures that I could not possibly justify to anyone from the standpoint of production values! That said, I was stunned by the ghastly poor acting by Jake Lloyd, Natalie Portman and that other guy in the first two prequels. I am no longer able to "willingly suspend disbelief" as we are called upon to do in watching fiction on screen, and I just don't care about any of them any more (as I did for the 1st three films). What's left for me is the picture of a guy (Lucas) who has a proven formula for raking in large dollars and knows that he can put out anything with the name STAR WARS on it and he's bound to make a tidy profit, even from just the licensing of the characters to toy companies!
I criticize no one for loving them. But the moment Jake Lloyd first showed his talentless (IMO) little snub nose on the screen and spoke a line, my respect for Lucas' integrity as a film maker plunged to the bottom. I found the love scenes between Natalie Portman and that other guy (Jake grown up into a tall teen-aged bad actor, presumably) in the second prequel an embarrassment of non-acting. And I haven't even mentioned Jar Jar Binks!
George has all of my money he will ever get.
Sorry, that's just one man's POV. Enjoy them if you can.
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