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Sep 10, 2014 - 8:51 AM
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mrchriswell
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I think it's a pretty good movie, actually. It's one of the first times in my life, though, that I sat there thinking how terrible the music was. It wasn't that it was "not Barry" - it just seemed so disconnected to what was happening on screen. It wasn't "spy" music. There are LOTS of ways to do spy music. Barry's way, Jerry's way, Lalo's way, Quincy's way, Ennio's way -- even the way Legrand did it for Zebra. I don't know what Legrand was going for here. And that song! That bland lilting over the opening action sequence. It's the most off putting Bond opener ever. That the film recovered for me at all had a lot to do with Connery's presence, and pretty strong support from the cast.
Years later I heard the Phyllis Hyman song that was cut (so Legrand could vomit up his own, per his contract) and I was almost angry. It's much, much stronger. And as a fan of Hyman, it would have been nice for her to get that exposure. Such an under appreciated talent. Lani's lava lamp tone I could have certainly lived without. My two cents.
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I'm with Disco Stu!
I listen to the soundtrack album much more frequently than Octopussy, which I think of as its direct competitor because 1983 was the only summer in history with competing Bond movies with the two men who WERE Bond at the time! All Time High is about a thousand times LESS a Bond song than NSNA, if you ask me. I"ll take Die Another Day over it.
Canon or not, who cares? I love it, enjoy it a ton more than Thunderball, delighted that Klaus Maria Brandauer got to play a Bond villain, and Max Von Sydow as Blofeld?! Come on! That's entertainment.
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OOh, except I don't agree with Stu about "Bros" - I think he did fine and find at least a couple of those Bond films quite re-watchable. But that's another topic....
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Sep 10, 2014 - 11:40 AM
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MusicMad
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I'm with Disco Stu!
I listen to the soundtrack album much more frequently than Octopussy, which I think of as its direct competitor because 1983 was the only summer in history with competing Bond movies with the two men who WERE Bond at the time! All Time High is about a thousand times LESS a Bond song than NSNA, if you ask me. I"ll take Die Another Day over it.
Canon or not, who cares? I love it, enjoy it a ton more than Thunderball, delighted that Klaus Maria Brandauer got to play a Bond villain, and Max Von Sydow as Blofeld?! Come on! That's entertainment.
I disagree:
- the song All Time High is wonderful, perfect for the film and, for me, the last really great JB007 film song. Given the run of title songs from Nobody Does it Better this John Barry~Tim Rice ballad fits like a glove ... it's a shame that a turn into pop followed.
- the title song for Never Say Never Again is okay but a little bland - I have a cover version by an unknown songstress which I think sounds more involving
- I know that Thunderball is not universally loved but it is the perfect JB007 film (far more so than its acknowledged predecessor Goldfinger) and this 1983 remake was an utter failure being tedious and boring at times: even the wonderful Klaus Maria Brandauer looks bored.
- and its score: much maligned, good at times but unsatisfying overall ... though far more attractive than the recent attempt to write a JB007 score.
All in my humble - and honest - opinion, of course.
Mitch
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No it's not, All Time High is a terrible song for a Bond movie!
Wait, that's why we all complain so much about this kind of exchange - doesn't mean much for me to just do one of those "is not/is so" kind of things...
But I will say this: when I finally saw Octopussy on video in the late 80s (missed it on theatrical release), I was actually shocked that this MOR radio staple was the title song - I had had no idea it was even written by Barry just hearing it on the radio.
(And I started my soundtrack collection with Barry's Bond music fifteen years before, so I knew my John Barry!)
This is where taste comes in - I love the relaxed vibe of Never Say Never Again, but don't care for the, um, relaxed vibe of All Time High. Who knows why? Go figure.
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And, um, Klaus Maria looks bored in ALL his movies, when he's not looking impish, anxious, or crazy. That's his shtick - he had a range from A to D.
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