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 Posted:   May 17, 2005 - 11:21 PM   
 By:   Reed Birney   (Member)

I'm losing my mind: I am sure I had a recording of Dorothy McGuire's lovely rendition of the title tune, but I can't find it now and for the life of me can't figure out where I got it. Perhaps I taped it directly from the soundtrack. Anyone know if it was ever released on any of the various compilations, LP or CD? Many thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   PeterD   (Member)

Well, if it's any help, the LP soundtrack is still available:

http://www.gemm.com/ddc/search.pl?&a_refno=GML670766208

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 3:02 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

......And, if it's of any further interest, McGuire was dubbed by Marilyn Hooven.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

Reed
You can get specially made Disney CDs (made by Disney) by going to this site:
http://www.mouseshoppe.com/directory.cfm?CategoryID=258
"Summer Magic" is one of the film tracks available.
Mike


[startquote from Reed]I'm losing my mind: I am sure I had a recording of Dorothy McGuire's lovely rendition of the title tune, but I can't find it now and for the life of me can't figure out where I got it. Perhaps I taped it directly from the soundtrack. Anyone know if it was ever released on any of the various compilations, LP or CD? Many thanks.


 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Went to the disney site but it seems this cd is missing a couple of tracks that were on the original lp.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

Yes, it's missing 2 short tracks as were on the Buena Vista LP STER-4025:
Railroad Rag (1:08)
Reprise of Beautiful Beulah (1:55)

But it has the Summer Magic (Hooven) track Reed wants
Also
Summer Magic Overture Sherman-Sherman
Flitterin' Sherman-Sherman-Hayley Mills and Eddie Hodges
Beautiful Beulah Sherman-Sherman-Hayley Mills and Eddie Hodges
Summer Magic Sherman-Sherman -Marilyn Hooven
Pink Of Perfection Sherman-Sherman-Hayley Mills and Eddie Hodges
Ugly Bug Ball Sherman-Sherman-Burl Ives
On The Front Porch Sherman-Sherman-Burl Ives and Cast
Femininity Sherman-Sherman-Hayley Mills, Deborah Walley and Wendy Turner
Finale Sherman-Sherman

Original release date: 1963
Running time: 30:18






[startquote from Joe Caps]Went to the disney site but it seems this cd is missing a couple of tracks that were on the original lp.

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Recordman   (Member)

Disney gave her credit on the LP -How many times did Marni Nixon ever get similar credits at the time?

[startquotefrom Manderly]......And, if it's of any further interest, McGuire was dubbed by Marilyn Hooven.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Disney gave her credit on the LP -How many times did Marni Nixon ever get similar credits at the time?.....


In the early days of MGM Records, up to the mid-'50s, MGM often gave the dubbers credits, at least on the disc label, if not on the sleeve.

That's how many of us first learned about India Adams, Anita Ellis, Carol Richards, Trudy Erwin and others.

(I think that later, producers sensed that audiences were becoming more picky about these dubbed performances and usually then simply identified the singer of a given song by the character's name.)

(I also believe Giorgio Tozzi's work on SOUTH PACIFIC was credited on the album.)


big grin .....And certainly we know that Gordon MacRae and Shirley Jones were totally dubbed in OKLAHOMA by Bill Lee and Jo Ann Greer! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

.....Disney gave her credit on the LP -How many times did Marni Nixon ever get similar credits at the time?.....


In the early days of MGM Records, up to the mid-'50s, MGM often gave the dubbers credits, at least on the disc label, if not on the sleeve.

That's how many of us first learned about India Adams, Anita Ellis, Carol Richards, Trudy Erwin and others.

(I think that later, producers sensed that audiences were becoming more picky about these dubbed performances and usually then simply identified the singer of a given song by the character's name.)

(I also believe Giorgio Tozzi's work on SOUTH PACIFIC was credited on the album.)


big grin .....And certainly we know that Gordon MacRae and Shirley Jones were totally dubbed in OKLAHOMA by Bill Lee and Jo Ann Greer! big grin


Gee M ! ..... another illusion shattered.

I always thought that Gordon and Shirley were dubbed by Edmund Purdom and Alice Pearce !!

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2005 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Gee M ! ..... another illusion shattered.

I always thought that Gordon and Shirley were dubbed by Edmund Purdom and Alice Pearce !!.....



While Purdom and Pearce made test recordings with Jay Blackton and the full orchestra, and Purdom had, in fact, mastered an American accent in his singing very well, the producers finally decided that their performances were too strong and dramatic in musical intensity for the light and buoyant picture on the screen. That's why they decided to go with Lee and Greer!

big grin big grin big grin

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2005 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

.....Gee M ! ..... another illusion shattered.

I always thought that Gordon and Shirley were dubbed by Edmund Purdom and Alice Pearce !!.....



While Purdom and Pearce made test recordings with Jay Blackton and the full orchestra, and Purdom had, in fact, mastered an American accent in his singing very well, the producers finally decided that their performances were too strong and dramatic in musical intensity for the light and buoyant picture on the screen. That's why they decided to go with Lee and Greer!

big grin big grin big grin


While you are right about Greer replacing Pearce, it wasn't Lee that replace Purdom, it was Bill Shirley!

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2005 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Both Bill Shirley and Bill Lee dubbed for one character in one movie !!
In the film With A Song in My Heart, The title song in performed by Susan Hayward (dubbed by Jane Froman) and dancer Richard Allan, who could not sing. He is dubbed in the introduction to the song.
It begins
"Night and a million stars are falling - from another world I hear you calling"
This is sung by Bill Shirley because only that part of the song was too high for Bill Lee, who dubs the rest of the song !!

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2005 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

.....Gee M ! ..... another illusion shattered.

I always thought that Gordon and Shirley were dubbed by Edmund Purdom and Alice Pearce !!.....



While Purdom and Pearce made test recordings with Jay Blackton and the full orchestra, and Purdom had, in fact, mastered an American accent in his singing very well, the producers finally decided that their performances were too strong and dramatic in musical intensity for the light and buoyant picture on the screen. That's why they decided to go with Lee and Greer!

big grin big grin big grin



Ah...I see !
I guess that's why Purdom and Pearce didn't get to sing on the "Porgy & Bess" movie either ???

NP. "Alice Pearce sings Schubert" - with the Alburquerque Philharmonic, conducted by Spike Jones



 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2005 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Ah...I see !
I guess that's why Purdom and Pearce didn't get to sing on the "Porgy & Bess" movie either ???.....



They were never up for it, AFAIK.

The original dubbers were James Shigeta for Porgy and Myoshi Umeki for Bess, but, unfortunately these music masters were among the many items lost in the big pre-filming soundstage fire that consumed all the sets and costumes for the film.

Also, when the picture was re-started, Percy Faith and Mitch Miller were replaced as Musical Director and Choral Supervisor, respectively, due to prior commitments. (This may be part of the reason why the Gershwin estate didn't like the ensuing Previn & Darby work.)

big grin big grin big grin



(Gee, I just wonder......I HOPE no one is taking any of these posts seriously! frown )

 
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