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 Posted:   Oct 14, 2005 - 10:01 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Here are a few tasty tidbits from the late Ron Goodwin's superb score the the 1962 sci-fi film THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS. Music performed by the Radio Symphony Orchestra of Slovakia (Bratislava), during the same sessions that produced our CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON CD. The TRIFFIDS suite was conducted by my darling wife Kathleen Mayne. Hope you enjoy!

http://www.mmmrecordings.com/Coming_Attractions/coming_attractions.html

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   gumdrops1   (Member)

YES!

WE'RE IN HEAVEN FUR SURE!

THANK YOU!

RON GOODWIN RULES!

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

All the clips sound simply stunning - totally faithful to the originals. The clip "Sight For Sore Eyes" from Triffids confirms my long held belief that Ron was a big fan of Olivier Messiaen. Not a rip, but rather a close empathy with some of Messiaen's modes.

I really wish you the best of luck with these releases. I hope you can get them out at last.

Heath

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 1:51 AM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Thanks for the kind words. Not only is it a great score, but the story behind the film and the music is fascinating, and I hope you enjoy all the trivial information that will be provided in our liner books about this ill-fated production. Much of Ron's score was never heard in the picture, instead being replaced by music composed by Johnny Douglas. The cue "Spanish Square" that's heard on our web site is one of the unused cues, and "A Sight For Sore Eyes" was also altered in the picture -- what you hear on our recording is the original version that Goodwin wrote.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   bedhead   (Member)

Now you've got me salivating, MMM. When can we purchase this gem?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   Nick Haysom   (Member)

mmm... make that 20,000,000 m's...

smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

The question that comes to mind is:
is it THE original recording or a rerecording?


 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

Read the first post. It´s a rerecording, as all of MMM´s CDs. But it´s a very careful rerecording and very close to the original.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

"The question that comes to mind is: is it THE original recording or a rerecording?"

Personally, I don't think that question should even come to mind until you listen to one of our RE-recordings. Because in the history of film music there have been MANY superb re-recordings that are even better than the originals because you can HEAR all the intricacies of what the composer and orchestrator wanted, which you often CAN'T hear in old tapes.

In addition, we and other labels often have more time in which to record and prepare the music for your listening pleasure, unlike the film production companies, which had to crank out many of these scores so fast that they couldn't get rid of all the wrong notes -- they just "hid" them in the mixing of the film's soundtrack.

Yes, there are some bad re-recordings out there, just like there are bad original tracks releases, but to judge a given CD on the basis of a bad job somebody else might have done with a different release is just ludicrous. Judge each release on the basis of THAT release and that release alone. Or you can possibly make a judgment of some type based on the recent track record of that particular label. But DON'T compare one label's work with that of another label's, be it for re-recordings or releases of original tracks.

And if you don't believe me, check out the following:
http://www.mmmrecordings.com/Rave_Reviews_/rave_reviews_.html

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Mr. Schecter, NOBODY does it better! Even if your re-recordings were half as good, your releases would be worth getting for the incredible liner notes. For anyone harboring doubts, together, the recordings AND the notes are an incredible gift to those who love this music

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

Fabulous work as always, David! Can't wait to hear the whole thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   gumdrops1   (Member)

Much of Ron's score was never heard in the picture, instead being replaced by music composed by Johnny Douglas.

What about the music of Johnny Douglas? I know that he composed one of the greatest scores of the mid '60's IMHO - CRACK IN THE WORLD. Based upon his music style for that film, I believe I was able to pick out which tracks were his in DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS. Did Johnny Douglas compose most of the music involving the actor Kieron Moore? Who by the way was in CRACK IN THE WORLD.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

You should have all your questioned answered by our notes, which devote 5,625 words to THE DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS.

You are right about Douglas composing the music for the lighthouse sequences, but it's not that simple, as a lot of Goodwin's music from the non-lighthouse sequences was replaced by Douglas cues as well.

Unfortunately, Johnny Douglas threw out almost all of his dramatic film music scores, only saving a few "love themes" that he (wrongly) thought would have more appeal in the future. Otherwise we certainly would have included his TRIFFIDS music in our suite and I also would have wanted to do CRACK IN THE WORLD, another score I love. I believe I have some published sheet music from the latter -- probably a "love theme." If I find it I'll post the cover or something.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Oblicno   (Member)

I'm just watching Day of the Triffs on tv now. The picture looks like it was shot through a fogged lense from a distance. The Triffids are of Dr. Who quality, and it's really cheap, they can't afford to show Howard Keel breaking a van window. The music seems alright though.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

TRIFFIDS is a "flawed" film due mainly to budget restrictions as well as the style of the excellent novel being very uncinematic, as it was NOT a disaster story, but rather a well-reasoned look into the various sociological ways that humanity might have to start over from scratch in the event of a worldwide disaster.

While the film as a whole might not be greater than the sum of the individual scenes, if you don't pickily attack the seams caused by the budget restrictions, there are a lot of memorable scenes in the picture, due in large part to the writing and the acting.

As for the music you hear in the picture, a LOT of the music in our 20-minute suite was not used in the picture. It's a very enjoyable score -- much better than what you hear in the film. Ron enjoyed hearing it, as it was not the most rewarding experience he ever had scoring a film, and I think he was able to listen to it "freshly," with time having smoothed over a lot of memories that might have helped block the experience from his mind.

Ron's only complaint with our recording was that he felt it was a little "too dry," as in not echoey enough. Without telling him that it was always our intention to present the music as "film music" rather than to create some kind of concert experience, we took his statement as a compliment that we had succeeded in our attempts.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Sorry this is such a boring sheet music cover. I guess nobody in Famous Music Corporation's art department knew how to draw a crack.

The contents of this 12-page folio are: "Overture And Main Theme," "Admiration Theme," and "Moonbeam Theme." Sorry I can't show you any of the music, but I'd need permission from the publisher for that.


 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2005 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   gumdrops1   (Member)

I gotta know. Is Johnny Douglas still here amongst the living? The last time I heard any new music from him was for the animated super heroes series that featured the Hulk and the X-Men. And that was nearly ten years ago.

The music he composed for that Saturday morning cartoon was very enjoyable. My sister would hum the theme he wrote for the Hulk. Now that's amazing.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2005 - 3:29 AM   
 By:   gumdrops1   (Member)

Another thing.

It's a shame Mr. Douglas didn't value his film music as much as we do. I haven't seen CRACK IN THE WORLD in over twenty five years, yet I can still play several of his themes from that film in my head. I would record the movie onto casette from the tv and play his music over and over again. At least three hundred times.
CRACK IN THE WORLD is a phenomenally fantastic score THAT NEEDS to be produced on cd for the world to rediscover and enjoy.

Someone needs to storm over there to PARAMOUNT and have them release the masters, if they still exist. Until this film music injustice is rectified, there will always be a crack in my world.

JOHNNY DOUGLAS RULES!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2005 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

Alas, Johnny Douglas died of cancer in April, 2003. Even many years before that he was ill, as I was never able to talk directly with him, instead conversing with his very pleasant daughter.

Double alas, if anybody tried to reconstruct the score from merely listening to it, it would not be a very accurate rendition of what he actually wrote, but would merely be an approximation of what the person heard when he listened to the film. And if you think you can hear everything that was written into a score when you merely listen to old soundtracks, you are sadly mistaken.

Triple alas, as the film was not made in the U. S., so I doubt Paramount would have any recordings on it. Those probably would have remained in England, if they ever survived the film in the first place. Paramount's publishing arm would have been interested in the ownership of the music from a performance standpoint, but not from a "let's obtain the master elements and protect them" standpoint.

At least we have the movie with which to enjoy Douglas' fine score. And it's a pretty decent movie, too.

 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2005 - 5:10 PM   
 By:   Guenther K   (Member)

And it's a pretty decent movie, too.

Well... a matter of opinion.

 
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