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 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 4:25 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

What do folks think of the Omega album? I have this and love it. I have never heard the Columbia LP, and it has been ages since I have seen the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 5:42 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

What do folks think of the Omega album? I have this and love it. I have never heard the Columbia LP, and it has been ages since I have seen the film.

By Omega album, you mean the Ray Heindorf [CORRECTION: Heinz Sandauer] re-recording? That's probably what most people were familiar with outside of the film itself, and while not the film version, the sound quality is of course better. I enjoyed it, just like Leroy Holmes' KING KONG (making allowances).
Playing a re-recording alot creates a schizophrenic rift where you forget the film music version. When the original film music is released, it can initially sound primitive in comparison. Ultimately it's apples and oranges, and better for one's sanity not to compare them.
The Columbia LP was released with the film, but I've forgotten if it's the actual film cues or re-recordings. Either way, it sounds more "original" than the Heindorf version. And then, of course, there's the actual tracks released by Monstrous Movie Music. From the Leith Stevens recordings stored at the Marr Archive at University of Missouri:
https://finding-aids.library.umkc.edu/repositories/2/archival_objects/129881

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


By Omega album, you mean the Ray Heindorf re-recording?


The stereo recording from the late 1950s, released on LP on the Omega label, later by Citadel. That's Ray Heindorf?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)


By Omega album, you mean the Ray Heindorf re-recording?


The stereo recording from the late 1950s, released on LP on the Omega label, later by Citadel. That's Ray Heindorf?


Looks like it, if you click on the soundtrackcollector link above

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


By Omega album, you mean the Ray Heindorf re-recording?


The stereo recording from the late 1950s, released on LP on the Omega label, later by Citadel. That's Ray Heindorf?


Looks like it, if you click on the soundtrackcollector link above


I am not seeing any reference to Heindorf. The album is credited to Heinz Sandauer.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   rmos   (Member)

Every source I've seen refers to the DESTINATION MOON recording from Columbia (CL 6151) as a 10-inch LP. Below is an image of the only back of this recording's sleeve that I've ever seen. Notice what it says along the bottom: "Columbia 7-Inch Lp Records." Anyone have an explanation for this?
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It's a spiel for Columbia's "pop" releases supposedly to replace the 78 rpm single. When Columbia introduced the 33 1/3 rpm record in October of 1948 they issued these 33 1/3 singles they called "7-Inch LP" and most likely ended sometime in 1949 with the acceptance of RCA's 45 rpm singles.



In looking more closely at a blow-up of that back cover, the text seems to read as follows:

"enjoy the same brilliant reproduction that this LP record gives you with COLUMBIA 7-INCH Lp RECORDS for popular hits · brief Masterworks · folk music · play them on your 33 1/3 rpm automatic record changer or LP player attachment”

So, this blurb for a 7-inch record format was placed on the back of 10-inch records?


That would be my guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2016 - 11:51 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)


By Omega album, you mean the Ray Heindorf re-recording?

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The stereo recording from the late 1950s, released on LP on the Omega label, later by Citadel. That's Ray Heindorf?

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Looks like it, if you click on the soundtrackcollector link above

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I am not seeing any reference to Heindorf. The album is credited to Heinz Sandauer.



I don't think that Ray Heindorf had any connection to this recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2016 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)


By Omega album, you mean the Ray Heindorf re-recording?


The stereo recording from the late 1950s, released on LP on the Omega label, later by Citadel. That's Ray Heindorf?


Looks like it, if you click on the soundtrackcollector link above


I am not seeing any reference to Heindorf. The album is credited to Heinz Sandauer.


Oops, sorry about the name mix-up. The point is it's the re-recording that was commonly available to fans.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2016 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Oops, sorry about the name mix-up. The point is it's the re-recording that was commonly available to fans.

Yes, but I am curious what listeners think of this version, in light of the film and other score releases. (Didn't some label release the actual score tracks?)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2016 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Oops, sorry about the name mix-up. The point is it's the re-recording that was commonly available to fans.

Yes, but I am curious what listeners think of this version, in light of the film and other score releases. (Didn't some label release the actual score tracks?)


Well, presumably you read my opinion (and that MMM released the film music) when you quoted one of my posts above.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2016 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Well, presumably you read my opinion (and that MMM released the film music) when you quoted one of my posts above.


Yes, I did, thank you.

I ask because I am curious about film score re-recordings that have become the definitive version almost by default. When another version comes out later - whether it is the actual film tracks or another reading - I am always interested to read about how that version that we've all known and loved holds up in comparison.

Using "Spellbound" as another example, the Warner Brothers LP by Heindorf - yes, Heindorf - is for me the definitive version, better than the film tracks, the concerto, or the more recent re-recording.

 
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