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 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I enjoyed Bruce Marshall’s light, easy piece on Columbo for FSM Online, but I’d like to stand up for Patrick William’s work on the show. Apart from “Try And Catch Me“, Bruce clearly wasn’t too impressed. For me, William’s best work stands next to Billy Goldenberg’s as the finest provided for the series.

In particular, the score for How To Dial A Murder is a remarkable piece, with it’s velvety, ethereal, undulating woodwind line denoting the murderer’s (Nicol Williamson) presence. It’s just a beautiful bit of motific spotting. In fact the writing for the whole show is masterly, with a particularly lovely interlude for surging low strings and piano toward the end (for a time lapse sequence). It must have been stylistically unique for US TV scoring at the time.

The score for “The Conspirators” episode is also highly effective. Although not opulent, it features an appropriately sinister Irish-jiggy feel that’s perfectly in keeping with Clive Revill’s impish IRA killer. Film music doesn’t have to be spectacular to be effective.

Apart from Williams, I also liked John Cacavas’s music for “Columbo Goes To The Guillotine”, or rather his “Columbo” theme to be precise, with its Kurt Weill overtones. Bruce doesn’t seem too impressed by this either because he made no mention of it at all. Well, that’s fair enough. But I thought I’d dive in to champion these composers and keep the ol’ flame burning under the music of Columbo.

BTW I’m thoroughly enjoying FSM Online. It’s a great innovation. Good luck with it.

Heath

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Sir T.   (Member)

Williams' score for MAKE ME A PERFECT MURDER stands out as of one the best of the show.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Laurent WATTEAU   (Member)

Williams' score for MAKE ME A PERFECT MURDER stands out as of one the best of the show.

Yes it is! One of the very best in my opinion.

I was rather shocked that the article didn't mentionned this one. I Haven't seen the episode in years but still have that great fugue theme in the head.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

Williams' score for MAKE ME A PERFECT MURDER stands out as of one the best of the show.

That score is simply marvelous, it is for me one of the best TV scores of the 70s. But IMHO there is a difference in Pat Williams' scoring for the "old" and "new" Columbo. I think his 70s scoring was much better and more inspired.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)



That score is simply marvelous, it is for me one of the best TV scores of the 70s. But IMHO there is a difference in Pat Williams' scoring for the "old" and "new" Columbo. I think his 70s scoring was much better and more inspired.


The same could be said of Columbo itself.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

The same could be said for most composer's 70s vs 80s scores. In the 70s, Pat Williams AND Billy Goldenberg were two of the best. In the 80s, like so many, they weren't quite as inspired (this includes filmmakers, writers, etc.). My favorite Pat Williams TV score from the 70s is Incident in San Francisco.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Firstly, I very much enjoyed the article. It would be nice to see more tv-related stuff.

As far as the music goes, I far prefer what was written for the 'old' Columbo than for the 'new'; in fact I prefer the 'old' episodes anyway, regardless of the music and who wrote it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

The same could be said for most composer's 70s vs 80s scores. In the 70s, Pat Williams AND Billy Goldenberg were two of the best. In the 80s, like so many, they weren't quite as inspired (this includes filmmakers, writers, etc.). My favorite Pat Williams TV score from the 70s is Incident in San Francisco.

The same could be said about Gil Mellé. A very sad development, because I love Goldenberg's and Mellé's work in the 70s so much.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

Billy Goldenbergs Red Sky at Morning is a beautiful score.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 9:09 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

What Pat Williams is there on LP? I have "Shades of Today" on Verve from the late 60s; another on Capitol from the early 70s ("Threshold?") where he's smoking a cigar; and "How Sweet It Is" on RCA from the 60s. I think the latter is my favorite of these.

What else is on LP or CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 10:43 PM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

The One and Only on Lp

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2006 - 11:16 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

"The One and Only on Lp"

What's that?

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2006 - 1:21 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Hey Guys,

I appreciate ALL your comments.

At the end of the piece I made it a point to acknowledge the many of you who are Williams fans, though I am not one.

Many of the scores mentioned may indeed be fine but they didn't make an impression on me when i saw the episodes. And believe me, i have seen every ep mulitple times.

i may have changed my opinion had i had a chance to have a more recent viewing but the dvd's released so far don't contain the Williams scored episodes.

Glad you have enjoyed it even if you have disagreements!

Bruce Marshall

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2006 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   nick11a   (Member)

The one I really enjoyed as well was the Irish one. Very well done. I'm not sure which one it was- it might have been the last one of the actual television season.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2006 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   Sir T.   (Member)

That should be "THE CONSPIRATORS", guest starring Clive Revill.

 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2006 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I just had the pleasure of re-watching the great ep "Try and Catch Me" and it confirmed my feelings about the score.

Just wonderful!

bruce marshall

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 28, 2006 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

In the 80s, like so many, they weren't quite as inspired (this includes filmmakers, writers, etc.). My favorite Pat Williams TV score from the 70s is Incident in San Francisco.

Everything was better in the old days, right?

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2009 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The score for “The Conspirators” episode is also highly effective. Although not opulent, it features an appropriately sinister Irish-jiggy feel that’s perfectly in keeping with Clive Revill’s impish IRA killer. Film music doesn’t have to be spectacular to be effective.


Just watched "The Conspirators" this morning. And while it's a serviceable score and a decent effort, it lacks the icy, avant-garde brilliance of those first three seasons. The music gave way to more "by-the-numbers" scoring and some songs, especially in the end credits. That's more a reflection of changing times, I guess. Those first three seasons of Columbo were brilliant but beginning with the fourth season, the music became more conventional. It's still good stuff, but IMO not up to the level of that early period.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2009 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

The same could be said for most composer's 70s vs 80s scores. In the 70s, Pat Williams AND Billy Goldenberg were two of the best. In the 80s, like so many, they weren't quite as inspired (this includes filmmakers, writers, etc.). My favorite Pat Williams TV score from the 70s is Incident in San Francisco.

To be clear, are you saying that filmmakers and writers weren't as inspired in the '80s as they were in the '70s?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2018 - 8:41 PM   
 By:   nick11a   (Member)

OK, resurrecting a very old thread here.

For the Columbo episode “The Conspirators” (scored by Pat Williams), the remastered DVD version removes my favorite music: the “Irish Chieftan” inspired music cue when Columbo is driving across the bridge. I remember the music cue was used/played on TV in reruns through the mid 2000s. Sadly, it isn’t there any more and I’m not able to locate a version of the episode pre-2006 when the newer version of the episode without this cue replaced the older/original version.

Very few things irk me such as modifying the original soundtrack of shows and movies. Other examples include the first home video version of Star Trek’s “City on the Edge of Forever” and the first DVD versions of some of the complete seasons of “The Fugutive.”

Anybody got an older version of the episode with the music cued intact who can post it? TV stations now use the HD prints of the episode with the cue removed so I haven’t heard it/seen it in about 12 years.

 
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