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 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

So I was on this two-hour train trip today (job-related trip every Wednesday), listening to the CD's I had brought with me - Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" and a Jean Michel Jarre techno remix album called "Odyssey Through O2". Both of these (and especially the first, of course) had that chug-along train rhythm as base. It made me think about film music that served some of the same purpose. There's always something very entertaining and appealing with film composers trying to emulate the steaming pace of a train through the music.

For example, there's the energetic main theme from Goldsmith's THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY. Or the circus train music that Williams composed for INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.

Any other examples?

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

So I was on this two-hour train trip today (job-related trip every Wednesday), listening to the CD's I had brought with me - Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" and a Jean Michel Jarre techno remix album called "Odyssey Through O2". Both of these (and especially the first, of course) had that chug-along train rhythm as base. It made me think about film music that served some of the same purpose. There's always something very entertaining and appealing with film composers trying to emulate the steaming pace of a train through the music.

For example, there's the energetic main theme from Goldsmith's THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY. Then there's the circus train sequence music that Williams composed for INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.

Any other examples?


Yes, I love Andre Previn's main title to Bad Day at Black Rock with the old passenger Diesel racing through the expanses of the American Southwest!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

SILVER STREAK

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Oblicno   (Member)

Well, i always think of Get Carter when it comes to trains and music, though i know the train fx are under the music and not really part of it. I still like it though.

I also like Shagbag, Hounds and Harvey from In the Heat of the Night, that has a sort of train-whistley effect at some stage and a nice sputtering out ending.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Ellen   (Member)

YOUNG BILLY YOUNG

"Grand Central" from CARLITO'S WAY.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

There's a very onomatopoeic few seconds at the start of the track "Death of Kerim" (sorry - should probably have given a spoiler alert there!) in From Russia With Love.

Because it's less than ten seconds, Barry probably thought he'd go to town on it, and it mirrors exactly the rhythm of the steam train in a way that might sound a bit corny if it were extended beyond that.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member)

Superman, both when Clark races the train at the beginning and at the end as Superman racing to fix the tracks.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

There's a very onomatopoeic few seconds at the start of the track "Death of Kerim" (sorry - should probably have given a spoiler alert there!) in From Russia With Love.

Because it's less than ten seconds, Barry probably thought he'd go to town on it, and it mirrors exactly the rhythm of the steam train in a way that might sound a bit corny if it were extended beyond that.

Chris


Don't believe your spoiling it for too many out here, who hasn't seen at 43 year old Bond flick? But the Map montage music Barry wrote for the train sequence is strongly evocative of a locomotive.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)



Don't believe your spoiling it for too many out here, who hasn't seen at 43 year old Bond flick?


Well, I couldn't remember if Thor had seen it... smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Such an Elfman music lover as you should remember this one, Thor: the beginning of "The Children's Hour", introducing the final act of Batman Returns.

Oh, and Back to the Future III, I guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member)

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets when Ron and Harry are in the flying Ford escaping the train.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Of course there's Richard Rodney Bennett's MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS. I am thinking of the track "The Orient Express" which contains the beautiful piece where the train departs.

I'd also recommend Pascal Esteve's MAN ON THE TRAIN. The main theme is very much like the rythm of a train.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I think Goldsmith does a great, rousing train theme in his main title for BREAKHEART PASS.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, I couldn't remember if Thor had seen it... smile

Pr. this thread:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=20562&forumID=1

...the only Bond I haven't yet seen is YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   RcM   (Member)

The opening titles to Horner's SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

I think Goldsmith does a great, rousing train theme in his main title for BREAKHEART PASS.


YES!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

Arthur Honegger was a classical composer who also did music for ballet, opera, and Abel Gance's 1927 film "Napoleon."

And, his piece "Pacific 231" is a musical portrait of a steam locomotive.

-- Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 9:26 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

Actually, thinking about it, how about THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER (even if the train seems to be moving rather slowly at times)set to a wonderful Elmer Bernstein tune and -
THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, Cyril Mockridge's Paramount score which seems to lean on Alfred Newman material (?) but is nonetheless an exciting and vibrant theme...
- JMM

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 9:59 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


Victor Young included at least two train journey themes in his great score for the 1956 "Around the World in 80 Days".
These occur in the India and American West sequences.

There is also a train journey sequence in Ron Goodwin's score for "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines", and don't let's forget Richard Rodney Bennett's lovely main theme for "Murder on the Orient Express".

There must be many other examples .....

NP. "Boy on a Dolphin" - Hugo Friedhofer

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2006 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

In a rare case of scoring on-screen action for the composer, track 9 from Nyman's score for THE CLAIM has a chug-chug rhythm.

 
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