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 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

Just received this from Perseverance Records. On a quite odd move, you have to pay 10$ [edited] for a FUTURE release... If they want to know how many units to press maybe they should make more public the project, dont you think ?

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You may pre-order now to give us a better understanding how many units we should press (unless already stated). YOU JUST NEED TO PAY $10 TO RESERVE YOUR COPY:

Chinatown - The Rejected Score by Phillip Lambro

A digital re-recording, this is the famous score that was tossed out to be replaced by Jerry Goldsmith's music. Conducted in Prague by the composer.

PRE-ORDER ______ units; $30



Deadly Friend by Charles Bernstein

This promo is limited to 500 CDs. It features the complete orchestral music from the 1986 Wes Craven movie. The original Varese album at the time of the film's initial release contained only the electronic music written for the film. Included is another of our very popular audio interviews, this time with Wes Craven and Charles Bernstein. This CD is available only through the Perseverance Web site and will not be sold in retail stores.

PRE-ORDER ______ units; $22



The Film Music of Jim Manzie, Vol. 1
The Film Music of Jim Manzie, Vol. 2

Selected from more than twenty of his film scores, the music on these two promotional releases is from such cult films as "Krocodylus" aka "Blood Surf", "Stepfather 2", "Night of the Scarecrow", "Sleepstalker", "My Grandfather Is a Vampire", "Pumpkinhead II: Blood Wings", "Night of the Demons 2", "H.P. Lovecraft's Lurking Fear", "Servants of Twilight", "The Offspring" aka " >From a Whisper to a Scream", one of Vincent Price's last movies, and many others. 250 copies each are made available to the collectors around the world.

PRE-ORDER Vol. 1 ______ units; $29
PRE-ORDER Vol. 2 ______ units; $29



Sybil by Charles Bernstein

The promotional release of the music to the 2006 CBS movie directed by veteran Joseph Sargent is limited to 200 copies and won't be available in stores.

PRE-ORDER ______ units; $29

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

A disturbing sign... taking advantage of the mad rush for small pressings to basically make people pay before any chance of knowing what the CD is like...

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Deadly Friend by Charles Bernstein

It features the complete orchestral music from the 1986 Wes Craven movie. The original Varese album at the time of the film's initial release contained only the electronic music written for the film.


Does this mean that the Perseverance WON'T contain the same tracks as the Varese LP?

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Well, I've heard Mr. Lambro's score to Chinatown (one wonders if they'll release the original tracks and just "call" them a rerecording) - it's a VERY short score, basically the same length as Mr. Goldsmith's (the cues are in the same spotting positions) and since the CD won't have the source music it will run about twenty something minutes.

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

On a quite odd move, you have to pay 100$ for a FUTURE release... If they want to know how many units to press maybe they should make more public the project, dont you think ?

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You may pre-order now to give us a better understanding how many units we should press (unless already stated). YOU JUST NEED TO PAY $10 TO RESERVE YOUR COPY


Wait... you need to spend $10 on this FUTURE release, not $100... right?

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)



Wait... you need to spend $10 on this FUTURE release, not $100... right?



I think he ment 10 instead of 100, got alittle nuts with the zero key. So you end up paying 30 bucks for a 25 min. score. That most of us has never heard before. But it is RARE!!
sd smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

What the **** is this? So, feasibly, these CDs could be sold out before they even appear on the website of the site that's created them?

I didn't get one of these e-mails from Perseverance and I'm gonna be mighty ****** if I miss the Charles Bernstein scores.

This limited edition business is starting to get ridiculous. I mean... 200 copies? C'mon!

JR

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I didn't get one of these e-mails from Perseverance and I'm gonna be mighty ****** if I miss the Charles Bernstein scores.

This limited edition business is starting to get ridiculous. I mean... 200 copies? C'mon!

JR



I was thinking the same thing(not again)hooey with the rejected Chinatown, I want those Bernsteins tho.
sd smile

I just sent them an email about the upcoming preorders.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

I´m interested in Chinatown and Deadly Friend. But 30 $ for the Lambro score alone? Come on! That´s a bad joke.

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

I´m interested in Chinatown and Deadly Friend. But 30 $ for the Lambro score alone? Come on! That´s a bad joke.


Now if they had both Goldsmiths and Lambros on one cd, then we might talk turkey.
sd smile

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   nonadanix2   (Member)

...and the Charles Bernstein discs are promos, which are, naturally, "not for sale". And they sell them at rather high prices? So, they are not promos and for sale? wink

Sorry, I'm not interested in any of these!

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

I understand it's not an easy thing to get some of these titles to take off. I've dealt with Perseverance Records in the past and was very pleased.

I've put my money down on Deadly Friend and Chinatown. I hope enough of you do as well so that these releases can happen. I mean, come on! Who would have thought these would see the light of day. I don't care how these releases come to be, as long as I can get an opportunity to listen to them. My hat's off to Rob for trying give these to us.

NP: Conan The Destroyer (Poledouris)

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

If they are promos, it's only natural for there to be limited runs.

It also kinda makes sense to force a deposit...as the money would goto pressing the CDs in the first place. Remember, again, they are promos. Not regular releases, or even limited editions.


-Joshua

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

So the total cost of a 20-minute CD re-recording is going to be $40 + shipping?!? Or is the $10 just a deposit and the balance paid when it's ready?

Does the $10 refer just to the CHINATOWN disc or to the others as well? And if to the others, is that $10 each? Per copy?

Can't wait to see what happens when SAE/FSM or Varese (hell, Amazon!!!) introduce the $10 pre-order fee....

 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

As I understand it, the $10 is a deposit.

I seriously doubt that pre-payment will become a trend. But if it did end up facilitating something awsome like The Goonies or Heavy Metal, I would gladly give the producer my money in advance.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   RobinEsterhammer   (Member)

Just to clarify a few things that have been questioned/misrepresented on this post:

1. You only have to pay the $10 deposit for the future releases to reserve your copy. We do this to cover production costs, and so we know how many units we should manufacture; we want to ascertain that you are actually committing to a sale. We don't want people to get excited about the CD and then later decide they don't want it anymore and leave us stuck with the pressed albums.

2. The $10 deposit is for each future release, and it is A DEPOSIT that goes toward the final purchasing price. So if you want three CDs, you send $30.

3. The reason why some of these promos, and especially Chinatown, is so expensive, is that re-recording a score and flying two people to the Czech Republic costs money. I would love to make the score affordable to everyone, but that is just the hard reality. And we do need to make a profit, too.

4. The Chinatown score runs about 28 minutes, but we MIGHT fill it up with an audio interview with the composer.

5. Deadly Friend won't have the electronic score, which was on the Varese release. It will be the fully orchestral music.

6. Promos: A hot topic, I know. The truth is: THESE ARE PROMOTIONAL CDS. And that is why there are only 200 of them. They were not made for the collectors; they were made for the composer to use. But since we work closely with the composers, they agreed to let us press more so we could satisfy the collectors. If you see "200 copies" that means that there is a TOTAL of 200, 100 of which may go to the composer, and the rest is for you guys. I am repeating: These are not manufactured for commercial reasons, and they do cost money.

7. One person complained that he didn't get an email from us. We don't have every soundtrack collector's email address. The email was sent to journalists and existing customers. If you want to get on our mailing list, go to our Web site and send us an email. (I don't think it would be alright to post our address here.)

I hope this clears things up. Feel free to disagree, but be courteous.

Robin Esterhammer


Just received this from Perseverance Records. On a quite odd move, you have to pay 100$ for a FUTURE release... If they want to know how many units to press maybe they should make more public the project, dont you think ?

----

You may pre-order now to give us a better understanding how many units we should press (unless already stated). YOU JUST NEED TO PAY $10 TO RESERVE YOUR COPY:

Chinatown - The Rejected Score by Phillip Lambro

A digital re-recording, this is the famous score that was tossed out to be replaced by Jerry Goldsmith's music. Conducted in Prague by the composer.

PRE-ORDER ______ units; $30



Deadly Friend by Charles Bernstein

This promo is limited to 500 CDs. It features the complete orchestral music from the 1986 Wes Craven movie. The original Varese album at the time of the film's initial release contained only the electronic music written for the film. Included is another of our very popular audio interviews, this time with Wes Craven and Charles Bernstein. This CD is available only through the Perseverance Web site and will not be sold in retail stores.

PRE-ORDER ______ units; $22



The Film Music of Jim Manzie, Vol. 1
The Film Music of Jim Manzie, Vol. 2

Selected from more than twenty of his film scores, the music on these two promotional releases is from such cult films as "Krocodylus" aka "Blood Surf", "Stepfather 2", "Night of the Scarecrow", "Sleepstalker", "My Grandfather Is a Vampire", "Pumpkinhead II: Blood Wings", "Night of the Demons 2", "H.P. Lovecraft's Lurking Fear", "Servants of Twilight", "The Offspring" aka " >From a Whisper to a Scream", one of Vincent Price's last movies, and many others. 250 copies each are made available to the collectors around the world.

PRE-ORDER Vol. 1 ______ units; $29
PRE-ORDER Vol. 2 ______ units; $29



Sybil by Charles Bernstein

The promotional release of the music to the 2006 CBS movie directed by veteran Joseph Sargent is limited to 200 copies and won't be available in stores.

PRE-ORDER ______ units; $29

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

5. Deadly Friend won't have the electronic score, which was on the Varese release. It will be the fully orchestral music.

Oh? Well was the orchestral score an alternate to the electronic cues or an addition to them? Just what exactly is gonna be on this CD?

I'm guessing the "BB" theme will be missing then...?

John

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   touche   (Member)

The real question should be will these 'promos' be pressed CD's or CD-R's? It's virtually unheard of that any pressing plant would press in numbers as low as 200.

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   touche   (Member)

Another point to consider. Since when has this message board been used to solicite the sale of 'promos' (or bootlegs?) which are presumably unlicensed by their prospective rights holders?

Sheriff? Anyone?

 
 
 Posted:   May 29, 2006 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   buysoundtrax   (Member)

We will confirm that PRESSING as a rule only will do a 1000 Units on the first run and 500 Unit on the repress.


Mark Banning
www.buysoundtrax.com

 
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