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 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   King Conan   (Member)

I just bought the CD. I listened it. So if you like the first one, it seems to me that the second one is a little bit disappointing. And if you don't like the first one, well... don't listen it! And forget the horrible remix at the end of the CD, there's no name for that!
So about the CD (51 minutes of score):
The variations of the original themes are nice but.. there's nothing else. Zimmer (helped with 7 others composers and 4 or 5 orchestrators) finds to offer the typical Zimmer I don't like: rough action without a good idear and atmospheric moments without style.
By the way, Badelt doesn't appear on the CD. He was probably occupied to sink the Poseidon!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   gumdrops1   (Member)

Well I guess that sez it all. Yuk Yuk.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Zimmer (helped with 7 others composers and 4 or 5 orchestrators)

So this doesn't offer the same Oscar potential to Zimmer as DaVinci then? (I'm guessing that's the only reason he did that one on his lonesome...)

Shame about the early review... shame these great films haven't inspired better music...

John

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   scoringsessions   (Member)


So this doesn't offer the same Oscar potential to Zimmer as DaVinci then? (I'm guessing that's the only reason he did that one on his lonesome...)


I assume you are referring to the CD album, where the credits read:

Ambient Music Designer: Mel Wesson
Score Arranged by Lorne Balfe, Nick Glennie-Smith and Henry Jackman
Latin Lyrics and Choir Arrangements: Graham Preskett

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I assume you are referring to the CD album, where the credits read:
Ambient Music Designer: Mel Wesson
Score Arranged by Lorne Balfe, Nick Glennie-Smith and Henry Jackman
Latin Lyrics and Choir Arrangements: Graham Preskett


? Sorry ?

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   scoringsessions   (Member)

You implied that DVC was done on his "lonesome". The album credits (and most likely the film credits) imply otherwise.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   trammel   (Member)

In their sale flyer Best Buy is advertising the POTC-DMC soundtrack CD with two exclusive bonus tracks.

Does anyone know what the extra tracks are?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)



Ambient Music Designer: Mel Wesson


This guy did so much better in pop music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

In their sale flyer Best Buy is advertising the POTC-DMC soundtrack CD with two exclusive bonus tracks.

Does anyone know what the extra tracks are?


The cast of Disney's HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL perform a vocal version of "He's A Pirate!" and the Cheetah Girls perform "Keep Your Eye On The Sparrow". Disney synergy at it's best!

Ryan

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

Double post

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

You implied that DVC was done on his "lonesome". The album credits (and most likely the film credits) imply otherwise.

Oh, well I'd see those more as "orchestrators" and "arrangers" than "composers", thereby allowing Zimmer to put himself forward for Oscar consideration (since, the last I heard, you're not eligible if there was multiple composers on the project). There's always a reason for these things...

John

 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2006 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   Agent Norman Newman   (Member)

POTC2 is only 9.99 on amazon right now.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   Reeler   (Member)

The cast of Disney's HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL perform a vocal version of "He's A Pirate!" and the Cheetah Girls perform "Keep Your Eye On The Sparrow". Disney synergy at it's best!

Good way to kill a score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

The two new themes are pretty good - Jack's theme and Davy Jones' theme. Though it will be debatable whether or not it works in the film, I think Zimmer succeeded in making Davy Jones' theme sound like a biker gang (which he claimed he was trying to do)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   Jostein   (Member)

This score isn't bad, much better than the first one. I quite like it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Michael Arlidge   (Member)

the last I heard, you're not eligible if there was multiple composers on the project

Correct. Almost every other technical category at the Oscars permits multiple nominees for each film, but the Original Score category is one of those that doesn't.

(WARNING: the following contains some venting of frustration)

To use Zimmer as an example, the situation with the score for Gladiator is an interesting situation. As you are doubtless aware, both Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard were given equal billing in the credits for the film. Each award for which the score was nominated in the lead up to the Oscars (including the Golden Globe, which they won) gave Zimmer and Gerrard credit. However, when the Oscar nominations were announced, Gerrard was left out. The way I see it, the Academy had three options:

1) To disallow the nomination because of the fact that two composers were given equal billing in the credits for the film.

2) Nominate the score, but give Zimmer sole credit, based on the fact that he wrote the majority of it.

3) Screw their own rules, and nominate Zimmer and Gerrard together.

I find the first scenario cowardly, the second one outrageous, and the third acceptable. They chose the outrageous one, and it still pisses me off to this day.

(here endeth the ventingbig grin)

Now, to bring this back to POTC2, what I said above is irrelevant, as there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of this score being nominated for an Oscar, even if the stupid Academy rules didn't exist.

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

disappointment of the year!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)


I find the first scenario cowardly, the second one outrageous, and the third acceptable. They chose the outrageous one, and it still pisses me off to this day.


It's not that outrageous. Their rule would have been analogous to the rule for WGA credit for screenplay - 10% content. I don't think Gerrard wrote even 10% of Gladiator, making her more a featured performer in their eyes than a composer. And a couple of those tracks she did write were heavily based on earlier work that Pietro Scalia had referenced in the temp track. So perhaps they were disallowed?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

disappointment of the year!


Why, what were you expecting?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2006 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Mark Olivarez   (Member)

Probabaly real swashbuckling Pirate music. wink

 
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