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 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

How is this? Does it attempt to capture the feel of music/film scores of the era it portrays? Does Jerry score the monster movie within the film? Is the CD a good representation of what’s in the film?

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I like it- it's got a real pretty little theme in it, much in the vein of "Summer Place" and if you refer to "The Mant", yes, there is "score within a score" music in it- it's a fairly satisfying little listen.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

James Southall's review should answer your questions:
http://www.movie-wave.net/titles/matinee.html

I would give the score ****; there is nothing daringly innovative nor technically complex, but the music is beautiful, and I am grading how pleasant & enjoyable it is.

It's a very very nice little score; I have not seen the movie, but some moments sound like "happy carefree childhood memories" with a sprinkling of "magic moment at the movies" (the first minute of "Showtime" is a case in point).
Great feel-good music.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   buysoundtrax   (Member)

How is this? Does it attempt to capture the feel of music/film scores of the era it portrays? Does Jerry score the monster movie within the film? Is the CD a good representation of what’s in the film?


If you want to hear a sample from the score go here:


http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/matorsounbyj.html


Mark Banning
www.buysoundtrax.com

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

I love this score, my favorite tracks are 1 and 10, track 10 is like 7 minutes long and is just pure Goldsmith. I think it does capture the feel/mode of the 50's very well.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member)

Some of the vintage music in Matinee is by Herman Stein I believe. The Atomo Vision logo music is right out of This Island Earth. I love Jerry's score to Matinee.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Dave Schechter can add to this, but MATINEE being Universal, they had access to the Decca Records library. Thus, for the MANT sequences they used Dick Jacobs recordings from his THEMES FROM HORROR FILMS album.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2006 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

For me it's a Goldsmith late masterpiece, really. All charm, with swing, a little action... And a joy to listen from start to finish (a rare thing these days!).

About missing music, there's a militaristic cue in film that remains unreleased. BTW, Dante's film is very good too (maybe his last one).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2006 - 1:00 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Something has to be done about the search mode here. I'd love to point to several Matinee musings from the past but can't. And it's just too much to have to write 'em all over again. Suffice it to say that the wonderful scoring of the scene when Woolsey and the kid exit the hardware store and Woolsey explains to the kid all about the magic of making movies, without the slightest trace of condescension...in contrast to the equally wonderful yet totally different scoring approach taken to a very similar scene in Poltergeist when the parapsychologist explains to the kid all about the loneliness and yearning of the lost souls...this is a college course in itself i.e. The Art of Film Music Composing: Goldmith. In the Matinee scene he flat out created a mood; in the other, he captured the attitude and emotions of the characters. Ah!

When I met Jerry in summer 2000 I had the opportunity to tell him of my love for that Matinee scene. "You created a wonderful melancholic mood." He smiled and said thank you. Wish I could've talked further about the way he varied the jaunty Woolsey theme into something so loving and caring.

Sumptuous loving parody of the Percy Faith Theme from A Summer Place in Matinee, too.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2006 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Well, I found something in d'udder place that expands upon my infatuation. This was written like 6 years ago:

...the cue is entitled "Halfway Home" and begins with what I'm sure was an intended parody of the "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" TV theme. After this part comes the music/scene I alluded to with Jerry.

You may recall Mr. G stating that with Patton he felt he "captured the essence of the character." Hearing him specifically use that phrase "capture" gave me tremendous satisfaction. If he had the time, I would have liked to discuss the old capture vs. create thing by comparing his approaches to "Halfway Home" and Poltergeist's "The Light." The reason is that both scenes depict a grown-up mentoring a youngster; again, with Matineee it was the John Goodman character walking down Main St. and explaining the magic of making movies to the awestruck young man. I love the scene so much because Woolsey/Goodman doesn't patronize one bit and Jerry "created" a beautiful mood of melancholy to the whole thing. At one point, though, the music turns ominous, menacing and this is where Jerry "captured" the boy's feelings as he views an imaginary animated prehistoric beast in-tandem with Woolsey's voice-over. But then it goes back to that beautiful music as the camera swings forward into the theatre and makes its way past the ticket counter, popcorn machine & into the auditorium. It is a powerfully directed scene.

With Poltergeist it was when the Beatrice Straight character explained to the little boy the story behind the lost souls and their loneliness, "oh, they're so lonely." The music of "The Light" perfectly captured both her's and the boy's fascination, awe and wonder. You see this in their faces. It's a magnificent moment.

My question to Jerry would be "2 similar scenes, 2 different approaches; was this a deliberate act or was it more an instinctive thing on your part?" Could be a neat discussion. I've tried playing "Halfway Home" while envisioning the Poltergeist scene in my mind, and it's somewhat of a fit, but a tough one. "The Light", however, together with the Matinee scene is a no-go. One reason, perhaps, is that even though there are some moments of comic relief in what is essentially a horror film with Poltergeist, the opposite holds true for Matinee, a film that is basically a comic romp with moments of sublime drama.

What a neat way to pick apart J's composing mind. Ah, the stuff of dreams.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2006 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Matinee is sort of a one-theme score, but it's a GREAT theme, beautifully wistful. I don't really count the 'Summer Place' takeoff as that is such an obvious homage.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2006 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Matinee is sort of a one-theme score, but it's a GREAT theme, beautifully wistful. I don't really count the 'Summer Place' takeoff as that is such an obvious homage.

I think there are (at least) three major themes: the "Coming Attraction" theme, the bouncy John Goodman theme ("Hold On") and the Summer Place homage, which also bares quite a resemblance to Goldsmith's romantic theme from "The Prize".

Matinee is a wonderful score.

John

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2006 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

"One-theme"? Many themes!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2006 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member)

Doesn't Ruth Corday (Cathy Moriarty) have a jazzy piano theme too? It's played more than once I think.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2006 - 2:39 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

That sly 'bouncy' Goodman theme stuck me as a hilarious homage to a rather famous TV theme from the period of the film's setting. Quite appropriate, esp. when you consider how the gas station attendant thought Woolsey was "Mr. Hitchcock."wink

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2008 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

just listening for the complete score (oh how I love some missing bits like the military theme I mentioned before, or the dreamy scene when the child views the family video of his missing dad) and I am just wondering if mr goldsmith composed some of the source music.

I know they used rearranged music from the 50's horror movies, but there is also some party-band music (one cue featuring JG main theme!) and also somo cartoon-like music.

any idea?

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2008 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Matt B   (Member)

Sumptuous loving parody of the Percy Faith Theme from A Summer Place in Matinee, too.

I can't tell you how crazy it drives me to see Percy Faith constantly get credit for Max Steiner's beautiful tune.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2008 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

They didn't rearrange music from 50s horror movies -- they used previously-existing rearrangements of 40s and 50s horror/sci-fi music that were recorded in 1958 by Dick Jacobbs. That music was composed by Hans Salter, Henry Mancini, William Lava, Herman Stein, and Earl Lawrence (probably written by Stein, Salter, or Irving Gertz).

Regarding other music in the film:

The opening logo is by James Horner; there is also a short cue from Ronald Stein in the picture; there's original music from SHRINKING MAN by Irving Gertz; music by Alexander Courage; and a whole host of pop songs. And Max Steiner is properly credited on the cue sheets!

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2008 - 7:41 PM   
 By:   Matt B   (Member)

And Max Steiner is properly credited on the cue sheets!

Oh, I have no doubt Jerry's team got it right.

 
 Posted:   May 4, 2008 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

so there's no source music by Jerry, right?

 
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