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 Posted:   Dec 16, 2014 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

But I can only do five, and would anyone really argue with my five?


I would. No Italians. Granted, "Rozsa" ends in a vowel, so that is a concession.


Fair enough -- see how hard it is? I really should have included Morricone at the least. Okay, let's do different countries for each:

Goldsmith
Shostakovich
Morricone
Delerue
Hayasaka

Damn that was still pretty hard.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

How are we defining greatest?

Or is the question we're actually answering, "Who do I like best?"

If we define greatest as the combination of prolific, commercial and critical success, the top two must surely by John Williams and Ennio Morricone.

If we define greatest as who we like best, then forget it: there is no universal list.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 3:19 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

1-Ennio Morricone
2-John Barry
3-Bernard Herrmann
4-Jerry Goldsmith
5-Elmer Bernstein + John Williams (tied)

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 4:31 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Lists themselves don't reveal anything. I'd like to see people explain why they think so-and-so is greatest.

For me...

If we're talking greatest as in having the greatest achievements and impacts both on the art form and on the film going public, then I'd propose:

1. John Williams
2. Ennio Morricone
3. Bernard Herrmann
4. Max Steiner
5. Hans Zimmer

I choose these people not based on how much I like their music, but on how prolific they've been, how much critical and commercial success they've had and how much impact they've had on the evolution of the form and on the film press and film going public.

Williams is top simply because he's scored more "top ten" films than anyone, has probably written more famous music than anyone, did more than anyone to change the trajectory of film music in the 1970s, has more Oscar nominations than anyone, is probably most famous with the man on the street, etc, etc, etc.

As for Zimmer, you might not like him but he is also changing the trajectory of film music and is fast becoming film music's "man of the century" with the press and the public at large. If it isn't already the case, he will soon be second in fame with the public only to Williams.

If we're talking greatest as in simply the best (as in greatest master of the medium on a technical level), irrespective of critical or commercial success and public impact:

1. Jerry Goldsmith
2. John Williams
3. Miklos Rosza
4. Bernard Herrmann
5. Ennio Morricone

I place Goldsmith top on this list because whilst he did not become a famous name like Mancini or Williams, I do believe he has demonstrated the greatest depth, breadth, innovation and mastery in the medium.

If we're talking about greatest as in who's music really does it for me:

1. John Barry
2. Bernard Herrmann
3. Jerry Goldsmith
4. Ennio Morricone
5. John Williams

The reason Barry tops this list is his music does more for me than any other and I think he could get under the skin of a film and its audience better than anyone. He did not demonstrate the same breadth and depth of mastery in "music for orchestra" as some others, but he touched hearts.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 4:38 AM   
 By:   Ken Longworth   (Member)

Bernard Herrmann
Erich Wolfgang Korngold
Miklos Rozsa
Elmer Bernstein
Alex North

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 5:22 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Special mention:
The great Italian Maestro....Stelvio Cipriani

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

where's Zimmer?

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

where's Zimmer?

With Junkie XL?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   jpteacher568   (Member)

1. Erich Wolfgang Korngold
2. Miklos Rozsa
3. Franz Waxman
4. Bernard Herrmann
5. Jerry Goldsmith

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   jpteacher568   (Member)

1. Erich Wolfgang Korngold
2. Miklos Rozsa
3. Franz Waxman
4. Bernard Herrmann
5. Jerry Goldsmith

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2014 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

If we define greatness by influence, then the five greatest are, chronologically:

1. Steiner
2. Herrmann
3. Goldsmith
4. Williams
5. Zimmer

The greatest among those are Steiner and Goldsmith. As for the best, I agree with Stephen Woolston: It's Jerry. No one produced the kind of thoughtful accompaniment he did, and, if that weren't enough, his musical talent and depth of expression knew almost no bounds. He's the most dynamic composer who ever lived.

Dan

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2014 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   General Kael   (Member)

Five greatest to me right now are

John Williams
James Horner
Miklos Rozsa
Hans Zimmer
Elmer Bernstein

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2014 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   PatrickB   (Member)

Why always or very often only Americans ? Music is universal.
Hard task to name 5 artists, and surely intellectually reducing, but my list :

Ennio Morricone
Jerry Golsdmith
Michel Legrand
John Williams
Georges Delerue

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2014 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

John Barry is my favourite composer, I like his music more than everyone else’s. Therefore I think he is the greatest. I don’t necessarily agree technical ability or complexity determines who’s the greatest. To my mind the point of music is it’s emotional pull and appeal, not to admire from afar how technically accomplished it may be. What's the point of it if your music doesn't have wide appeal to people, only to be admired by a small group of enthusiasts?

 
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