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Dec 4, 2006 - 7:43 PM
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Sorry, i know there was a post on this last year, but i've been listening to this a lot over the last few days.
It's great. It makes me smile, feel patriotic (a hard task), and misty-eyed over many a sunday afternoon or bank holiday watching the film.
The main title is superb.
A really quality march that makes me smile every time i hear it. Urgent and heroic and triumphal. A bit of suspense, villainy that ebbs the track out.
Some nice wh-wah-wah start to the second track where the footballers get their outfits and form as a group.
A touch of the Rocky's, or gladiators in a coliseum at the end of the track Start Kick.
The beautiful piece where Pele scores the bicycle kick sends a few shivers up and down the old spine, then the music for where the boys make the comeback and Sly saves the penny, and then they all do one out the stade gelped by loads of lads from the 70's.
And it all ends on a great postive note.
Quality. Great music.
I hate football films, but there's somethign about this that i really enjoy as well as the brilliant music. Possibly John Wark.
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The official release was missing two sections that were on the B==t. First, a cue when the first group of players arrive by bus and Caine and Stallone welcome them, and second the end part of the cue where they get their uniforms which had a whimsical end of Caine trying to diagram a tricky play but Pele then grabbing the chalk and showing how he'd do it in his patented way and ending on a light note.
Also, the CD didn't pay attention to the film when it came to composing their cue titles beacuse they keep misspelling Stallone's character name as "Match" when it's "Hatch."
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GREAT ESCAPE, STALAG 17, HARTS WAR, all great POW films about escape.
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Max Von Sydow, Jurgen Andersen, Werner Roth, George Mikell, Arthur Brauss, Adolph Hitler, Hermmann Goering, Eva Braun, The Stuker Dive Bomber, The U Boat....
Your Boys Took One Hell Of A Beating !!!!! 
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Dec 4, 2006 - 9:44 PM
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Oblicno
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Max Von Sydow, Jurgen Andersen, Werner Roth, George Mikell, Arthur Brauss, Adolph Hitler, Hermmann Goering, Eva Braun, The Stuker Dive Bomber, The U Boat....
Your Boys Took One Hell Of A Beating !!!!!
Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk!
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This is a great score, I love it. BTW, did anyone here get an autographed copy? Unfortunately I didn't.
Yes, I ordered it with RANSOM the day they were announced.
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John Wark.....
If I ever hear this, O, I can point out which bits are Shostakovich. I know there's alot in there.
Yes, and mainly form symphonies 5 and 7.
The liner notes should have mentionned that.
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Yes, and mainly form symphonies 5 and 7.
The liner notes should have mentionned that.
Oh yeah....
Something like that would of course be approved by the licensing studio and composer...
Who have to APPROVE the notes...
Be my guest and submit that and see how long it is before the RED PENCIL gets whipped out.
Ford A. Thaxton
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Yes, and mainly form symphonies 5 and 7.
The liner notes should have mentionned that.
As I wrote the liner notes, I can tell you that it's is one of those things that's just not really appropriate to mention on the official soundtrack release - especially (as Ford pointed out) when the studio has the final say on things. (You should have seen what I had to remove on FAREWELL TO THE KING!)
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But Ford, you do agree that this piece of information is relevant and interesting, don't you ? Acknowledging the use of some Schostakovich themes is not diminishing the talent of Bill Conti, who composed this fun and entertaining score.
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As I wrote the liner notes, I can tell you that it's is one of those things that's just not really appropriate to mention on the official soundtrack release - especially (as Ford pointed out) when the studio has the final say on things. (You should have seen what I had to remove on FAREWELL TO THE KING!)
I understand your point but I find that it's a pity. But it's not because this is how things currently work that it should remain this way, is it?
When I bought the CD, I had no idea about this score. Of course, it took me less than 1 second to recognize the Schostakovich quotations and I thought they were great.But I was really upset not finding any mention of it in your liner notes because, obviously, this is one of the most important to say about this score. If not, what the hell liner notes are for?
But here is another point : let's consider a person who doesn't know those Schostakovich works. What will he think ? Probably something like : "Wow, this is great! Bill Conti is a genius, I want more of his music etc...". Now if one day he hears Dimitri Schostakovitch's music, can you imagine the deception ? He may feel "betrayed". The main risk is that he becomes completly disgusted by Conti, this man that was so high in his mind... .And it's a shame because Bill Conti is a very very talented composer.
But I'm a little less upset now that I know that if you could have mentionned it you would have.
Laurent.
PS : But I remain conviced that it was possible to make at least a "light" reference to Schostakovich...
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