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 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 12:49 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

What a sublime score...

Thanks to Erik Woods' Cinematic Sound On-Demand program I've been catching up with this amazing score for the past little while. It's been years since I heard this score.

The colors are rich and bold. There's a lost innocence suggested by the main theme that's heartbreaking.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

What a sublime score...

Thanks to Erik Woods' Cinematic Sound On-Demand program I've been catching up with this amazing score for the past little while. It's been years since I heard this score.

The colors are rich and bold. There's a lost innocence suggested by the main theme that's heartbreaking.


Excellent score to one of my personal favorite films. And don't forget about Quest For Fire which I also present on the program. Sarde's Quest and The Bear should be re-released so the rest of the score community who didn't get a chance to purchase the original release can enjoy these two gems without mortgaging their homes.

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Quite a good score and one missing from my collection. (The only Sarde I have is Lord Of The Flies)

Is it me or are there very few discs released by this fine composer?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

There are quite a few Sarde CDs out there, but a lot of them may need to be imported from France. The CD with both Tess amd The Tenant on it is fantastic. I'm also quite fond of his scores to Music Box and Ghost Story, and just this week got the soundtrack to Sister Mary Explains It All which is quite good, and also contains music from both Lovesick and The Manhattan Project.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Ive seen a few of those scores floating around - but they all pull some hefty prices, especially Ghost Story.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 6:52 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)


The Bear should be re-released so the rest of the score community who didn't get a chance to purchase the original release can enjoy these two gems without mortgaging their homes.


Indeed. Though I have to admit, I got lucky today and found a copy for $40 at Footlight.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)



Indeed. Though I have to admit, I got lucky today and found a copy for $40 at Footlight.


WOW! That's a GREAT price. Intrada had one in their One-Of-A-Kind section a while back going for $174.99.

For those that don't have The Bear I highly recommend you grab the album from Footlight. That's the best price I've seen in a long time.

http://www.footlight.com/product.cfm?product_id=7524

Lots of other Sarde goodies there to.

http://www.footlight.com/search.cfm?qsearch=true&q=sarde&sCat=6&x=13&y=17

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 7:43 PM   
 By:   monkey   (Member)

Yes, especially considering the complete Tchaikovsky rip-off. Listen to the track June: Barcarolle.

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Seasons-Pyotr-Ilyich/dp/B0000013N0

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Yes, especially considering the complete Tchaikovsky rip-off. Listen to the track June: Barcarolle.


Wow, hadn't heard that before. But you have to admit, if nothing else Sarde's arrangement is gorgeous.

WOW! That's a GREAT price. Intrada had one in their One-Of-A-Kind section a while back going for $174.99.

I know, I'm wondering if it's too good to be true. They said it wasn't sealed but it was new, an import of the French release. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 9:18 PM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

The liner notes to The Bear say the theme is inspired by Eastern European Jewish folklore, and also mentions Tchaikovsky's use of the the same theme. I've never been able to confirm that the theme existed prior to Tchaikovsky's use of it though…

NP: Pirates (Philippe Sarde)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   crazyunclerolo   (Member)

Yes, especially considering the complete Tchaikovsky rip-off. Listen to the track June: Barcarolle.

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Seasons-Pyotr-Ilyich/dp/B0000013N0


Monkey see, monkey throw poo.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 9:26 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

In case the copy I got was used (ie, Footlight's only one), there is a seller on ebay offering a fairly reasonably "But It Now" price of $50:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-BEAR-Ultra-Rare-1989-Philippe-Sarde-CD-MINT_W0QQitemZ110013159326QQihZ001QQcategoryZ307QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

Quite a good score and one missing from my collection. (The only Sarde I have is Lord Of The Flies)

Is it me or are there very few discs released by this fine composer?


It's not just you. Back in the days of vinyl, there were perhaps two handfuls of albums out, but few of them are currently available on CD.

Many have never been released, like LOVESICK.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2007 - 11:16 PM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

There are nine tracks worth of Lovesick on the Sister Mary Explains It All CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2007 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

There are nine tracks worth of Lovesick on the Sister Mary Explains It All CD.

Thanks for the tip. I just found this one at Amazon.com. Never knew anything was available. One of the LOVESICK themes was one that Sarde had previously used in FORT SAGANNE, with only minor variation, so that had been the only thing I had in my collection.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2007 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Yes, especially considering the complete Tchaikovsky rip-off. Listen to the track June: Barcarolle.

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Seasons-Pyotr-Ilyich/dp/B0000013N0


WOW - I've always thought this beautiful score had a "deja-vu" quality to it ....now I know why. I still think Sarde is one of the great orchestrational composers of our time (perhaps I should say, "composer with a gift for orchestration")....he has obvioulsy done his homework.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2007 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   monkey   (Member)

Tchaikovsky's June from The Seasons has been adapted for orchestra multiple times - for violin and orchestra:

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Seasons-Pyotr-Ilyich/dp/B000088DU7/ref=sr_1_7/103-9600025-2828631?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1177578572&sr=8-7

But Quest for Fire sounds interesting.....

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2007 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

I loved The Bear theme when I heard the disc. Not long after, I watched the movie Grand Hotel. In it, Greta Garbo is doing her "I want to be alone" thing, and what's playing on the radio but a dance band arrangement of The Bear theme.

Apparently this theme's been a pop classic of sorts for a long time.

I never seem to get through this CD though. Loses steam for me. If you like it, try to get ahold of Quest for Fire, Tess, and Fort Saganne.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2007 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

One of the LOVESICK themes was one that Sarde had previously used in FORT SAGANNE, with only minor variation, so that had been the only thing I had in my collection.

No, this is not true at all. You may probably refer to the "Madeline" track in FORT SAGANNE, which has a kind of superficial similarity to the LOVESICK main theme, but not more.
Moreover, FORT SAGANNE was released in 1984, LOVESICK one year before in 1983!
Much more interesting however is the fact that Sarde completely re-used his theme from LE DROIT D'AIMER (with Omar Sharif and Florinda Bolkan) from 1972 note for note as the main theme for LOVESICK. Just the instrumentation has been changed a bit: Whereas in LE DROIT D'AIMER (available on a CAM EP from 1972) the piano is the solo instrument, in LOVESICK mainly the flute dominates.

 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2007 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Yes, especially considering the complete Tchaikovsky rip-off. Listen to the track June: Barcarolle.

http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Seasons-Pyotr-Ilyich/dp/B0000013N0


I was going to post this but I forgot which movement it was.

 
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