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 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

Recently I bought a new still seeled stereo copy of the 1959 score for Solomon and Sheba by Mario Nascimbene on LP. It is a MCA release MCA-1425. The only date on the record that I can find is "c-1959 MCA Records" on the back but I thought that they did not exist then. This like on my reel old Mono UA LP has no track list and the tracks sound different to the CD that I bought several years ago..

Does anyone have a track list for this LP.

Thanx in advance..

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

That would be the LP that was issued by MCA in 1986. During the dying days of the LP, MCA obtained the rights for a short time, to the UA & MGM record catalogue and issued a large number of LP re-issues. They sometimes gave them new artwork but they were budget issues and the sound quality was usually not good. None of the various LPs of Solomon & Sheba had any track titles to my knowledge but this is the list from the subsequent DRG and Legend label CD releases:

Main Titles (02:00)
Death Of David (02:39)
Solomon In The Temple (01:52)
Orgiastic Dance (04:50)
Death Of Abishag (01:42)
Battle (02:38)
Solomon Lifts Sheba (01:22)
Purification and Finale (01:53)

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

The LP has different titles and more cues:

1.- 'Rha-Gon' (???!!!)
2.- 'Egyptian Invasion'
3.- 'Battle in Israel'
4.- 'Pagan Festival'
5.- Main Theme (Title)
6.- 'King David's Death'
7.- 'Miracle'
8.- 'Returning to Arms'
9.-'The Misty Lake'
10.- Hymn to Jehovah
11.-'Sheban Caravans'
12.-'Abishag'
13.-'Solomon's Meditation'
14.-'Peace in Israel'
15.-'Declaration of Love'.

I have to say, it's a grim movie though!

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

That would be the LP that was issued by MCA in 1986. During the dying days of the LP, MCA obtained the rights for a short time, to the UA & MGM record catalogue and issued a large number of LP re-issues. They sometimes gave them new artwork but they were budget issues and the sound quality was usually not good. None of the various LPs of Solomon & Sheba had any track titles to my knowledge but this is the list from the subsequent DRG and Legend label CD releases:

Main Titles (02:00)
Death Of David (02:39)
Solomon In The Temple (01:52)
Orgiastic Dance (04:50)
Death Of Abishag (01:42)
Battle (02:38)
Solomon Lifts Sheba (01:22)
Purification and Finale (01:53)



The selections on the DRG cd seem to be derived from different source materials than the UA (MCA)LP. The DRG selections, which I find disappointing, do not sound as good. Also, perhaps someone can clear this up, the UA LP claimed to have dialog selections, however the MCA release did not have any. Was 2 different LPs issued? I never heard the UA version. I do know it had a lavish gatefold cover made of some thick cloth like material. A complete remastering of the UA/MCA tracks by some specialty label would be welcome.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   TOR The Wrestler From The Past   (Member)

Is anyone thinking of putting their S&S LP on cd? I have the shorter version on DRG cd, and would like to get the more complete version. What is the runtime of the LP?

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)



The selections on the DRG cd seem to be derived from different source materials than the UA (MCA)LP. The DRG selections, which I find disappointing, do not sound as good. Also, perhaps someone can clear this up, the UA LP claimed to have dialog selections, however the MCA release did not have any. Was 2 different LPs issued? I never heard the UA version. I do know it had a lavish gatefold cover made of some thick cloth like material. A complete remastering of the UA/MCA tracks by some specialty label would be welcome.


My UA LP copy only has music on it the same as the MCA LP. While the MCA copy is not technically the best it's a 100% better that the crappy UA version that I have . Whoever engineered the UA record in this part of the world must have been tone deaf as they seemed to have cranked up the trebble and killed of any base that may have been there. You should hear the tape his at the end of each track..

But thanx to those who replied with the LP track list..

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   TOR The Wrestler From The Past   (Member)

Anyone want to volunteer the LP runtime? The DRG cd is about 19 minutes.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2007 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

Anyone want to volunteer the LP runtime? The DRG cd is about 19 minutes.

I would say about 40~45 minutes..

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2007 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   jskoda   (Member)

Crappy sound and all, your old mono LP may still be your best-sounding alternative. I can't check right now, but it seems to me this is one of those LPs that never had a true stereo issue. I think the UA "stereo" version is just rechanneled mono, which is pretty outrageous for a 70mm 6-track roadshow film.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2007 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

The solomon lop (both original and MCA reissue) was true stero, unlike big country, etc.

the selection generally are not the same as the drg etc reissues which features unreleased mono music directly from the composers tape.

the label said dramatic highlights which leads some to believe it should have dialogue on it, but it never did.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2007 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   TOR The Wrestler From The Past   (Member)

I would say about 40~45 minutes..

Thanks.
Anyone know if the Soundtrack Library cd was sourced from the LP? Coincidentally has 15 tracks but runs 59 minutes. I suppose some Legend cd tracks could have been added, and some tracks merged together so it appears there's still only 15.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2007 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   recordwracked   (Member)

But who can think of track lists when Gina goes into her dance???????

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2007 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Every time MCA would reissue an older album originally on Decca or UA or whatever, the back cover graphics would get blurrier with each pressing. It was like they were doing a Xerox of the previous issue and it would keep losing a generation. By the time you get to the 80s pressings you can’t even read the liner notes.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2007 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

The solomon lop (both original and MCA reissue) was true stero, unlike big country, etc.

the selection generally are not the same as the drg etc reissues which features unreleased mono music directly from the composers tape.



'Solomon Lop' ... that has to be Yul Brynner's haircut, or a nifty move in archaic swordplay.

Sounds like proper stereo to me, but not the best of recordings certainly.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2007 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

YOU thought it was a grim movie? Imagine how Tyrone Power felt about it!

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2007 - 3:58 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....YOU thought it was a grim movie? Imagine how Tyrone Power felt about it!.....


I've always wondered, Preston, if Power could have pulled SOLOMON AND SHEBA together, and given it some sort of class. He was a good actor, very underrated, and must have seen something viable in the material after his nice turn in WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION.

I'm also always surprised to see Vidor's name attached to this, though after DUEL IN THE SUN, BEYOND THE FOREST, and RUBY GENTRY, I suppose anything was fair game for him (.....even though I harbor affections for those films, too).

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2007 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   jskoda   (Member)


Sounds like proper stereo to me, but not the best of recordings certainly.


I agree--I listened last night and it's definitely stereo. Odd sounding, but stereo.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2007 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

.....YOU thought it was a grim movie? Imagine how Tyrone Power felt about it!.....


I've always wondered, Preston, if Power could have pulled SOLOMON AND SHEBA together, and given it some sort of class. He was a good actor, very underrated, and must have seen something viable in the material after his nice turn in WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION.



Power was talented, but so was Brynner. The basic screenplay was flawed from the start. The battle-scene with the lemming-horses was a lunatic conception even apart from the well-documented cruelty. The whole thing was a potboiler remake of a silent era idea, and just couldn't work in the 60s. There's a great story about Solomon somewhere, but the themes that jump out should be about decay, jadedness and a pessimistic fall from grace. That was Solomon's reality. The film tries to give him a nice Davidic redemption ... far better to have MADE a decent epic on the David story.

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2007 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   philip*eric   (Member)

I like Solomon and Sheba a lot...not a great film but one of my guilty pleasures. Great cinematography, exotic + memorable music, Gina in all her great costumes(or lack thereof),etc.

I dont think that Tyrone Power would have been better than Yul, just different. In stills , he also looks a bit too old to be playing the younger son of King David. Several clips from the Power version were shown on the series THATS HOLLYWOOD around 1980. It is shame the Power footage has not been assembled and released such as the abandeoned 30s production of I,Claudius. Today with computer technology, the Power S&S probably could be finished .

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2007 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Logied   (Member)

How nice!You have a clean issue of a score of note on LP. Keep youe LP in great condition, add it to your collection for what it is and move on. Do not regard those comments from those whose comments do not add time to their
judegment.

 
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