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 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 7:55 AM   
 By:   TownerFan   (Member)

You can listen to an excerpt of Michael Giacchino's main theme from the upcoming Pixar's RATATOUILLE on the official website of the film:

http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/ratatouille/main.html

Sounds really nice! I love accordions! smile

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)

I absolutely LOATHE these instruments. Whenever I see an accordion player, I feel an insane urge to maim him. eek

CK

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   WesllDeckers   (Member)

very nice. quite catchy. I can't seem to place it, but it reminds me of some Goldsmith piece.
this has quality. when is the album coming out?

Mr.Giacchino is becoming my 2nd favorite composer. Sorry, Michael, the #1 spot has already been taken for the rest of my life.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Michael Arlidge   (Member)

I absolutely LOATHE these instruments. Whenever I see an accordion player, I feel an insane urge to maim him. eek

CK


I believe Howard Shore used an accordion for some of the Shire material from The Lord of the Rings scores. What say you now, Mr. I'm the world's numero uno 'Lord of the Rings' music fan?big grin

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Sounds good. I forgot about Brad Bird's new film. The story idea doesn't necessarily interest me but Giacchino's music is nice and Bird's direction has been pretty dang solid thus far in his career so I'll check it out. I'll most likely be pleasantly surprised.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I absolutely LOATHE these instruments. Whenever I see an accordion player, I feel an insane urge to maim him. eek

CK


Presumably there's a warrant out for you in France. smile

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)



I believe Howard Shore used an accordion for some of the Shire material from The Lord of the Rings scores. What say you now, Mr. I'm the world's numero uno 'Lord of the Rings' music fan?big grin


Well, you 'Roo, he used a "musette"...whatever difference there is to an accordion is very small, but it's the reason why Mr Shore is unmaimed.

razz

As for being "Thee Numero Uno LotR Score Fan in the World", which I am, thanks for asking, there's a lot of aleatoric music in T2T that's very good to dance to. You wouldn't wanna see me doing it, but it's great fun!

CK

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Michael Arlidge   (Member)

Well, you 'Roo, he used a "musette"...whatever difference there is to an accordion is very small, but it's the reason why Mr Shore is unmaimed.

razz


I guess Dominic Frontiere would do well to stay away from you then?big grin

As for being "Thee Numero Uno LotR Score Fan in the World", which I am, thanks for asking

Lord forbid anyone challenges your claim to the title!wink

there's a lot of aleatoric music in T2T that's very good to dance to. You wouldn't wanna see me doing it, but it's great fun!

It would be good for a bit of a giggle, I suppose.big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2007 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Morlock1   (Member)

Reminds me of the music Zimmer put together for MATCHSTICK MEN.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Ebab   (Member)

I absolutely LOATHE these instruments. Whenever I see an accordion player, I feel an insane urge to maim him.

Personally I like the instrument and its variations, especially in Tango.

What I do loathe is the worn-out cliché of Hollywood movies underscoring everything remotely connected to France with accordions. They really overdo that. (Giacchino used it for example for introducing the “Bomb Voyage” character in “The Incredibles”. I know it was meant as a cliché, but I still thought it was the cheap solution.)

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Moonie   (Member)

Any new Giacchino is a Welcome site for me.



sd smile

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Any new Giacchino is a Welcome site for me.



sd smile


Darn straight! Not to divert this thread but the last couple of episodes of LOST have been really cinematic in tone, and Giacchino's music certainly is paramount in achieving that film feel.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

Sounds like Mancini's CHARADE by way of his French cues from the PINK PANTHER SERIES.

The sampled guitar bass sounds like it's straight out of Jones' DUCKTALES music.

Would love to hear a Bond movie scored like this.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   vwing   (Member)

That sounds a lot like John Powell. I'm not just talking Mr. and Mrs. Smith John Powell for the Tango (although it does), but any time John Powell's done an action/kids' movie John Powell. The strings, the brass, the orchestration. It's good, I'm not saying no. But that's very much Powell territory. But I love Giacchino, so I can probably forgive him that. Just hope there's some more variety in the score.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   WesllDeckers   (Member)

The strings, the brass, the orchestration. It's good, I'm not saying no. But that's very much Powell territory.

actually it reminded me more of a 90s goldsmith orchestration...

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   vwing   (Member)

actually it reminded me more of a 90s goldsmith orchestration...

Didn't at all to me. Could you name specific movies you're talking about? I may just not be familiar with them. But take almost any section of something like Paycheck or Mr. and Mrs. Smith and compare it to this. I've actually listened to em back to back to make sure, and it really sounds similar to me.

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   David Coscina   (Member)



Didn't at all to me. Could you name specific movies you're talking about? I may just not be familiar with them. But take almost any section of something like Paycheck or Mr. and Mrs. Smith and compare it to this. I've actually listened to em back to back to make sure, and it really sounds similar to me.


being a fan of both Giacchino and Powell, I don't hear a similarity. And perhaps your comparison wasn't intentionally slighting the efforts of Giacchino but I really wish people would stop trying to find reasons to debunk Giacchino's originality. frown

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2007 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

On a side note, there was a recent MOH: Airborne trailer featuring some of Giacchino's new music. (Hard to hear over all the gunfire and explosions but the score sounds just as good as his other installments)

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2007 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   WesllDeckers   (Member)



Didn't at all to me. Could you name specific movies you're talking about? I may just not be familiar with them. But take almost any section of something like Paycheck or Mr. and Mrs. Smith and compare it to this. I've actually listened to em back to back to make sure, and it really sounds similar to me.


well, the guitar style is remniscent of Medicine Man (which is in turn remniscent of Under Fire). the strings remind me of the way Goldsmith put them alongside his other lines (almost entire 1990s output - beware, I don't mean notes but the playing and its relation to the other parts of the orchestra).
the lusher 2nd part remind me of the strings in Justine.
and the lightness of the arrangement reminds me of Fierce Creatures
.
but really, similiar ways of handling techiques and subject matter, as well as influences, is not unheard of with composers.

and let's not forget that we - the listeners - also have our own build in 'comparing' system. which is just natural because it helps you to categorize things (we used to survive on this instinct).

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2007 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

but I really wish people would stop trying to find reasons to debunk Giacchino's originality.

People on the internet have a seeming need to piss and moan whenever something good happens. "John Williams is doing another Spielberg movie? How can I possibly rain on everyone's parade!"

 
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