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There are lot of director - composer "collaborations" in Hollywood but what about Actor - Composer "collaborations"? I know that are several composers that have been more or less stuck with the same actor even if it is different directors.
So I gonna make it into a competition for you guys and there are only two rules.
1, The actor cannot be the director of the same film, for example Stallone have directed several films with the music of Bill Conti so those are not qualified for this contest BUT Stallone HAVE been actor in several Bill Conti scored films directed by someone else so those are indeed qualified.
2, Some actors & composers have had longer career than others so the what we consider a collaboration or not is up to the actors/composers size of their filmography, for example Tom Cruise and Hans Zimmer have had four films together so that could be considered a collaboration BUT on the other hand Jerry Goldsmith have scored four films for Kirk Douglas but since both these guys have had so long career that four films together could not be considered a collaboration.
So good luck.
Except for those I already mention I will start with:
Sean Connery and Jerry Goldsmith who have been "collaborated" on 7 films.
Eddie Murphy and David Newman on 6 films together.
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Apparently Michael Caine and John Barry used to share an apartment or something, and they've done a few films together: THE IPCRESS FILE, THE LAST VALLEY, DEADFALL, ZULU.
Clint Eastwood and Lalo Schifrin certainly had a thing going - Lalo ended up doing a film for Eastwood as director (SUDDEN IMPACT), but before that: THE BEGUILED, COOGAN'S BLUFF, DIRTY HARRY, MAGNUM FORCE, JOE KIDD and KELLY'S HEROES. (There was another Dirty Harry film in the late 80s as well that Schifrin did some music on, I think.)
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Ennio Morricone and Robert Deniro, yeah? 1900, Once Upon a Time in America, The Mission, and The Untouchables - and that's presuming I didn't miss anything. Ah, to remember a time when Robert Deniro was actually making good movies and Ennio Morricone was scoring them. *sigh*
Pedestrian Wolf
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Jul 19, 2007 - 5:58 AM
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MusicMad
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Apparently Michael Caine and John Barry used to share an apartment or something, and they've done a few films together: THE IPCRESS FILE, THE LAST VALLEY, DEADFALL, ZULU.
I had thought about starting a similar thread (though with less specific criteria) based on the sleeve notes of the new FSM release Wait Until Dark which mentioned the four movie collaborations between Audrey Hepburn and Henry Mancini. To be honest, four did not sound a lot given some careers.
Anyhow, to join in:
For Michael Caine ~ John Barry (I understand the shared accommodation was only short-lived at about the time of Zulu & Goldfinger): you can add The Wrong Box.
Then there was the link for Michel Caine with Roy Budd: Get Carter, The Marseille Contract, The Black Windmill & Kidnapped.
And, of course, we could consider: John Wayne with Elmer Bernstein: The Comancheros, True Grit, The Shootist, Cahill U.S. Marshall, Big Jake and McQ.
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Jul 19, 2007 - 8:27 AM
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manderley
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.....2, Some actors & composers have had longer career than others so the what we consider a collaboration or not is up to the actors/composers size of their filmography, for example Tom Cruise and Hans Zimmer have had four films together so that could be considered a collaboration BUT on the other hand Jerry Goldsmith have scored four films for Kirk Douglas but since both these guys have had so long career that four films together could not be considered a collaboration.....
I can't imagine what you mean by this "disclaimer", Mr. Toby.
Are you saying that the longer the career, even with more collaborations, the less it qualifies? If so, please give the parameters of your collaboration time for the quiz.....Is it 4 years run, 10 years run, 15 years run?.......
My guess is that you have qualified this so narrowly so as to EXCLUDE any obvious massive collaborations, thus making the game meaningless.
So, for example, when you have Max Steiner scoring (and I lost count) at least 17 Bette Davis films, and at least 14 Errol Flynn films, and at least 10-15+ Humphrey Bogart films, and at least 5-10 Gary Cooper films, etc. etc. etc.---these don't qualify.
Nearly any major composer from Hollywood's Golden Age will have scored more films with a star of that same period than any composer today can ever hope to emulate. It's the way things were and can never be again.
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Jul 19, 2007 - 12:38 PM
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Greg Bryant
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Clint Eastwood and Lalo Schifrin certainly had a thing going - Lalo ended up doing a film for Eastwood as director (SUDDEN IMPACT), but before that: THE BEGUILED, COOGAN'S BLUFF, DIRTY HARRY, MAGNUM FORCE, JOE KIDD and KELLY'S HEROES. (There was another Dirty Harry film in the late 80s as well that Schifrin did some music on, I think.)
I tend to think this connection is more Schifrin and director Don Siegel, in which Clint as an actor happened to appear; and later, Clint as director / producer and Schifrin. The collaboration was primarily through the director and / or producer connection.
You could make the argument that Morricone favored a relationship with Clint based upon his appearence in the $$ films. However, that relationship seemed more between Morricone and Sergio Leone. Morricone scored how many Clint appearence / non-Leone directed films? Two or three? I'm thinking High Plains Drifter and In the Line of Fire. Any others?
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Here's some detail about the Michael Cain/John Barry "living together" thing:
My dad had read Michael Cain's autobiography and read a passage to me where Cain described how his house was having construction done, or something like that, and he needed a place to stay for a short while. He was friends with John Barry, who offered his place with the caveat that he was working and it may be a little noisy. So Cain describes a sleepless night with Barry on the piano all night hammering on chords. In the morning Cain comes down and Barry plays for his friend what he came up with and it's the theme to Goldfinger.
Of course, I paraphrase - Cain described it very well.
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Clint Eastwood and Lalo Schifrin certainly had a thing going - Lalo ended up doing a film for Eastwood as director (SUDDEN IMPACT), but before that: THE BEGUILED, COOGAN'S BLUFF, DIRTY HARRY, MAGNUM FORCE, JOE KIDD and KELLY'S HEROES. (There was another Dirty Harry film in the late 80s as well that Schifrin did some music on, I think.)
Eastwood's had a long association with Lennie Niehaus.
And then there's Michael Douglas's association with Jack Nitzsche.
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