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There's a funny note on the back cover of the original Blu-ray if you want to do the work and check it out (click on Back under the cover art here: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/300-Blu-ray/451/).
That asterisked small print on the back of 300 is amazing. I hope someone from Warner Bros. was steaming under the collar from having to include it. It's telling that they couldn't even bring themselves to include the actual author's name. Bunch of children running Hollywood.
You want to know what kind of industry this is, just look at the two composers in question: one career blossomed, one faltered. One was clearly rewarded out of that situation.
And the other was punished. Disgusting culture.
Daniel Schweiger said something interesting regarding that. He said actually what Goldenthal did was revolting/distasteful and that people have no idea how this business works. I wonder what he meant by that?
More revolting than willful plagiarism? I'm prepared to be surprised.
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You want to know what kind of industry this is, just look at the two composers in question: one career blossomed, one faltered. One was clearly rewarded out of that situation.
Makes me wonder what Goldenthal's take of Guardians of the Galaxy would've been like.
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You want to know what kind of industry this is, just look at the two composers in question: one career blossomed, one faltered. One was clearly rewarded out of that situation.
Makes me wonder what Goldenthal's take of Guardians of the Galaxy would've been like.
There are various reasons as to why Goldenthal did not return to mainstream film scoring. Changing trends in film scoring which are covered here: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=121056&forumID=1&archive=0 such as vanilla music and the end of collaborations. Neil Jordan hasn’t made a mainstream film since The Brave One in 2007 and Juile Taymor’s last film was The Tempest in 2010. Had Taymor been tapped for Wonder Woman, who knows maybe Goldenthal would have got the gig. As for the vanilla film score music, his score for Michael Mann’s Public Enemies was clearly influenced by the Thin Red Line whether by his choice or not I don’t know. Goldenthal has said that the terrible injury he suffered did not impair his music side of his brain, however writing for films is somewhat more demanding than for the concert hall. Directors and producers are also not taking risks as we know with scores, so maybe Goldenthal does not want his creative side to be stifled.
As for Bates after 300 he spend 8 years working on mostly B movies with tiny budgets which few people saw. He scored three major films, a remake of the Day the Earth Stood Still and the two Snyder pictures. All three made enough to cover their production costs, though not to start any franchise. The films were savaged by the critics in equal measure. Bates managed to secure Guardians of the Galaxy thanks to his previous work with James Gunn, though interesting Snyder jettisoned for Man of Steel and BvS. So to say that his career has blossomed is not true. Warner have may tolerated Bates for two smaller Snyder films, however perhaps they considered him to be a risky choice for their major properties.
I’ve gone past hating Bates to simply ignoring him. I don’t own any of his scores and I don’t intend to buy any by him. Nor will I offer to take any from a member of this board even if they are offered for free. It is a small gesture, however to me, an important one.
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There was also a third composer and it wasn't good what happened.
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What was the involvement of the third composer? This is starting to sound like a David Lynch TV show.
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I don't know Spy Game but I do know Alan Silvestri's Predator, and Slither definitely plagiarizes that...still it's an effective and fun score. My favorite work from Bates is his two Guardians of the Galaxy scores...often generic but always fun and with occasional moments of greatness (Groot Spores).
I disapprove of his plagiarism but I would ask the gentleman who has refused to own any of his scores out of principle: how many James Horner scores do you own?
Yavar
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