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 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

Someone recently commented that FSM's Patton has appeared on iTunes... well, today I discovered that Intrada's out-of-print edition of Lock Up (otherwise known as Haute Sécurité!) can be purchased on iTunes for $9.99.

I own both CDs, so it makes little difference to me, but I'm curious to know if these iTunes releases are legit, or if they happened via a legal loophole of some kind...

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

How can limited editions show up on iTunes at all? Do iTunes have to take them down when the CD and download sales reach 3000?

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   captain X   (Member)

That's odd...

How can limited releases be available on iTunes???

Unfair for the people who purchase the actual sold out limited cd's for a substantial amount.

But I guess like Joan advised Tina...

Life is not fair!... I'm bigger and better and I'll always win!...

PS

Tell that to Goliath... not a very smart dude!

PPS

Swaying off the subject... it's about time to have Mancini's complete score to "Mommie Dearest" released.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)

How can limited editions show up on iTunes at all? Do iTunes have to take them down when the CD and download sales reach 3000?

This is strange. I talked to Jeff at Intrada about this, and he was going to bring this up with Doug, because this has nothing to do with their original (and now sold-out) CD.

-- Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Many times a licensor holds onto electronic download rights. With LOCK UP, we didn't have them. The licensor is, of course, free to do what they want with them. So they may have put it up themselves like Disney has been doing.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I own both CDs, so it makes little difference to me, but I'm curious to know if these iTunes releases are legit, or if they happened via a legal loophole of some kind...

I don't understand what you mean. If they happened via a legal loophole, wouldn't that make them "legit," or are you using the word in some other sense?

I'm sure they're up there not through the labels, but through the studios (or whoever owns the rights to the recordings, as opposed to labels like FSM and Intrada that license them for their editions).

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

If they happened via a legal loophole, wouldn't that make them "legit," or are you using the word in some other sense?


I meant something unscrupulous - but Roger F.'s explaination makes a great deal of sense, so it's probably legit.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

I noticed that the Varese-edition of BASIC INSTINCT was on the Canadian iTunes store, a surprise because there isn't a single Varese album on the Canadian store.

Ryan

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

I noticed that the Varese-edition of BASIC INSTINCT was on the Canadian iTunes store, a surprise because there isn't a single Varese album on the Canadian store.

Ryan


FYI, BASIC INSTINCT is no longer licensed to VARESE and if it's up on ITUNES, I'd like to know who put it there myself since I made the deal for PROMETHEUS RECORDS that granted them SOLE RIGHTS to this title for the term of their agreement.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

The Canadian iTunes listing states:

"(p) 2007 Studiocanal Image"

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=259010612&s=143455

I want to stress that this is the Canadian iTunes store. Canada. Not U.S.

Ryan

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 7:48 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Well, huh. It actually does appear to also be in the US store.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Wow

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Borked

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

message

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

board

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

huh?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:35 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Basic Instinct, and a few others like Cutthroat Island and Universal Soldier are on eMusic too, here:
http://www.emusic.com/browse/l/b/-dbm/b/0-0/1400153049/0.html

The label is noted as "Studiocanal Image / Believe Digital" (the later is usually the distributor on eMusic listings)

The Wikipedia article gives a bit of insite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StudioCanal


-Joshua

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2007 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

How can limited releases be available on iTunes???

Unfair for the people who purchase the actual sold out limited cd's for a substantial amount.


Let's be clear on what a limited edition means: it means that that particular CD from that particular label will not be released again. It does not mean that that music will be forever unavailable. (And really, is that what we would want?) Thus, Varese's limited "Cherry 2000" showed up years later on Prometheus.

Every contract is different (well, actually, a lot are full of boilerplate sameness, but you get my point). It seems that, once FSM sold out their run of 3,000 "Patton" CDs, 20th Century Fox (which continues to own the music itself) put it up on iTunes. "Lock Up" seems to be in a similar situation. If Intrada had purchased all media rights in perpetuity, that would not have been possible. But they apparently did not. (And why would they have?)

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2014 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

I missed out on the Intrada release - so I was very happy to come across it on iTunes.

Very enjoyable score.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2014 - 10:17 AM   
 By:   Jon C   (Member)

Of course this is not available in the US currently. This would probably be the one album I would purchase via download, until I find another album I really want smile

 
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