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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2016 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

According to Webb in a letter he wrote to Christopher Palmer that was included in Palmer's book "The Composer In Hollywood" most of Webb's film music was destroyed in a fire in his house after he retired in '62, and I assume that included "Sinbad The Sailor".

Yes, I've read and enjoyed that book. But some part of it must be out of date or incomplete, because somehow there was enough surviving Roy Webb material for a full CD compilation of original tracks material on Cloud Nine, including a short suite from Sinbad:
https://www.amazon.com/Curse-Cat-People-Music-SOUNDTRACK/dp/B01AXLO53S/

Where did that get sourced from, and might there be any more there? According to Bruce Kimmel on this very board a few years back, he was fairly sure that more of Sinbad existed. Sadly, Kritzerland hasn't started doing Rhino-owned stuff and all of RKO falls under that.

Yavar, you've got a point about the reason for the film's perfection -- don't get me wrong, I do love the film as is -- and I'll enjoy pondering your perspective. As for a recording... You're much too young to give up hope. (Or is that a very old photo of you?) Life is full of surprises.

Ponder away! I actually think putting fantasy into the film would completely ruin its mood and even its message.

I'll keep on hoping of course. But as the years pass, there will sadly be fewer like me who hold a torch for this score.

Yavar

P.S. the picture is about seven years old, I think. I'm too lazy to change it even though my glasses are crooked. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2016 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

I thought the crooked glasses were responsible for your unique point of view!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2016 - 7:29 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

According to Webb in a letter he wrote to Christopher Palmer that was included in Palmer's book "The Composer In Hollywood" most of Webb's film music was destroyed in a fire in his house after he retired in '62, and I assume that included "Sinbad The Sailor".

Yes, I've read and enjoyed that book. But some part of it must be out of date or incomplete, because somehow there was enough surviving Roy Webb material for a full CD compilation of original tracks material on Cloud Nine, including a short suite from Sinbad:
https://www.amazon.com/Curse-Cat-People-Music-SOUNDTRACK/dp/B01AXLO53S/

Where did that get sourced from, and might there be any more there? According to Bruce Kimmel on this very board a few years back, he was fairly sure that more of Sinbad existed. Sadly, Kritzerland hasn't started doing Rhino-owned stuff and all of RKO falls under that.

Yavar, you've got a point about the reason for the film's perfection -- don't get me wrong, I do love the film as is -- and I'll enjoy pondering your perspective. As for a recording... You're much too young to give up hope. (Or is that a very old photo of you?) Life is full of surprises.

Ponder away! I actually think putting fantasy into the film would completely ruin its mood and even its message.


I'll keep on hoping of course. But as the years pass, there will sadly be fewer like me who hold a torch for this score.

Yavar

P.S. the picture is about seven years old, I think. I'm too lazy to change it even though my glasses are crooked. smile


Actually the fire occurred in '61, and it was the original sheet music and unpublished concert music that was composed by Webb (it's not known if any acetates perished in the fire). There is however, "The Christopher Palmer Collection Of Roy Webb Scores" at Syracuse University, so I presume these are surviving scores from the R.K.O. library or reconstructions (Palmer was responsible for that Cloud Nine C.D. compilation "Curse Of The Cat People: The Film Music Of Roy Webb" which was the last thing he personally oversaw).

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2019 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

This thread, on one of my favorite scores of all time, deserves a bump. I'm thinkin' a re-recording is pretty unlikely at this point, but something Bruce Kimmel wrote once has had me hopeful ever since that tapes might be uncovered for the rest of the score (beyond the 5 wonderful minutes released on the Cloud Nine album). I wonder if it may ever happen. Even a Twilight Time iso score track would have me ecstatic...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2019 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

This thread, on one of my favorite scores of all time, deserves a bump. I'm thinkin' a re-recording is pretty unlikely at this point, but something Bruce Kimmel wrote once has had me hopeful ever since that tapes might be uncovered for the rest of the score (beyond the 5 wonderful minutes released on the Cloud Nine album). I wonder if it may ever happen. Even a Twilight Time iso score track would have me ecstatic...

Yavar


Unless they struck a deal with Warner (who owns the rights to this, unless it was one of the few RKO films they didn’t get), I don’t see a Twilight Time edition of this film with isolated score happening any time soon. I’m also pretty sure Warner’s been pretty slow on approving the few titles they’ve allowed Bruce to release so it may be a while before something like a release could happen.

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2019 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

You’re probably right, and I think Warners does still own the film. But I’ll (perhaps irrationally) continue to live in hope! One of my favorite scores of all time.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2019 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

.. somehow there was enough surviving Roy Webb material for a full CD compilation of original tracks material on Cloud Nine, including a short suite from Sinbad:
https://www.amazon.com/Curse-Cat-People-Music-SOUNDTRACK/dp/B01AXLO53S/





A very good CD. Archival material, but very enjoyable, thanks to an overall consistency of sound – there's not a lot of tonal difference between the sound of all the various film soundtracks, making it play like a nicely-balanced, continuous program, rather than a lot of cobbled-together extracts with the kind of jarring sound variations one might have expected. Of course, there are some ticks and pops that always make an appearance with acetates, but nothing overly distracting.
One of the few multi-film original soundtrack compilations that I like.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2019 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

A great, indispensable album in my library. The only thing that would have made it perfect would have been if they'd been able to include some material from MURDER, MY SWEET.

 
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