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According to Webb in a letter he wrote to Christopher Palmer that was included in Palmer's book "The Composer In Hollywood" most of Webb's film music was destroyed in a fire in his house after he retired in '62, and I assume that included "Sinbad The Sailor". Yes, I've read and enjoyed that book. But some part of it must be out of date or incomplete, because somehow there was enough surviving Roy Webb material for a full CD compilation of original tracks material on Cloud Nine, including a short suite from Sinbad: https://www.amazon.com/Curse-Cat-People-Music-SOUNDTRACK/dp/B01AXLO53S/ Where did that get sourced from, and might there be any more there? According to Bruce Kimmel on this very board a few years back, he was fairly sure that more of Sinbad existed. Sadly, Kritzerland hasn't started doing Rhino-owned stuff and all of RKO falls under that. Yavar, you've got a point about the reason for the film's perfection -- don't get me wrong, I do love the film as is -- and I'll enjoy pondering your perspective. As for a recording... You're much too young to give up hope. (Or is that a very old photo of you?) Life is full of surprises. Ponder away! I actually think putting fantasy into the film would completely ruin its mood and even its message. I'll keep on hoping of course. But as the years pass, there will sadly be fewer like me who hold a torch for this score. Yavar P.S. the picture is about seven years old, I think. I'm too lazy to change it even though my glasses are crooked.
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I thought the crooked glasses were responsible for your unique point of view!
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According to Webb in a letter he wrote to Christopher Palmer that was included in Palmer's book "The Composer In Hollywood" most of Webb's film music was destroyed in a fire in his house after he retired in '62, and I assume that included "Sinbad The Sailor". Yes, I've read and enjoyed that book. But some part of it must be out of date or incomplete, because somehow there was enough surviving Roy Webb material for a full CD compilation of original tracks material on Cloud Nine, including a short suite from Sinbad: https://www.amazon.com/Curse-Cat-People-Music-SOUNDTRACK/dp/B01AXLO53S/ Where did that get sourced from, and might there be any more there? According to Bruce Kimmel on this very board a few years back, he was fairly sure that more of Sinbad existed. Sadly, Kritzerland hasn't started doing Rhino-owned stuff and all of RKO falls under that. Yavar, you've got a point about the reason for the film's perfection -- don't get me wrong, I do love the film as is -- and I'll enjoy pondering your perspective. As for a recording... You're much too young to give up hope. (Or is that a very old photo of you?) Life is full of surprises. Ponder away! I actually think putting fantasy into the film would completely ruin its mood and even its message. I'll keep on hoping of course. But as the years pass, there will sadly be fewer like me who hold a torch for this score. Yavar P.S. the picture is about seven years old, I think. I'm too lazy to change it even though my glasses are crooked. Actually the fire occurred in '61, and it was the original sheet music and unpublished concert music that was composed by Webb (it's not known if any acetates perished in the fire). There is however, "The Christopher Palmer Collection Of Roy Webb Scores" at Syracuse University, so I presume these are surviving scores from the R.K.O. library or reconstructions (Palmer was responsible for that Cloud Nine C.D. compilation "Curse Of The Cat People: The Film Music Of Roy Webb" which was the last thing he personally oversaw).
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This thread, on one of my favorite scores of all time, deserves a bump. I'm thinkin' a re-recording is pretty unlikely at this point, but something Bruce Kimmel wrote once has had me hopeful ever since that tapes might be uncovered for the rest of the score (beyond the 5 wonderful minutes released on the Cloud Nine album). I wonder if it may ever happen. Even a Twilight Time iso score track would have me ecstatic... Yavar
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This thread, on one of my favorite scores of all time, deserves a bump. I'm thinkin' a re-recording is pretty unlikely at this point, but something Bruce Kimmel wrote once has had me hopeful ever since that tapes might be uncovered for the rest of the score (beyond the 5 wonderful minutes released on the Cloud Nine album). I wonder if it may ever happen. Even a Twilight Time iso score track would have me ecstatic... Yavar Unless they struck a deal with Warner (who owns the rights to this, unless it was one of the few RKO films they didn’t get), I don’t see a Twilight Time edition of this film with isolated score happening any time soon. I’m also pretty sure Warner’s been pretty slow on approving the few titles they’ve allowed Bruce to release so it may be a while before something like a release could happen.
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You’re probably right, and I think Warners does still own the film. But I’ll (perhaps irrationally) continue to live in hope! One of my favorite scores of all time. Yavar
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A great, indispensable album in my library. The only thing that would have made it perfect would have been if they'd been able to include some material from MURDER, MY SWEET.
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