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 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   Philipp   (Member)

Hi Guys,

what do you think is the best orchestra in the world?

Lately I came to think that the London Symphony Orchestra might be the best, followed closely by The Academy St. Martin in the Fields.

What do you think?

Philipp.

NP: SUPERMAN-THE MOVIE ( WILLIAMS LSO )

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

Well, I'm happy to live in Vienna, since the Vienna Philharmonic are certainly among the best. But I agree that it's hard to beat the London Symphony, particularly since they have a nice transparent sound, without losing their atmosphere.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Originalthinkr@aol.com   (Member)

I, and a lot of other people, used to think that it was the Chicago Symphony under Georg Solti. Now, since Solti's death, it's harder to tell.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Dan Hobgood   (Member)

Either the National Philharmonic or the London Symphony Orchestra.

DH

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

I would have to go for the LSO, since it is the only orchestra i heard live.
But the National Philharmonic and the Philharmonia of London kick ass also http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/wink.gif">

Stefancos

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Stands next to David Maxx, in front of Harry Manfredini's studio with a picket sign "GIVE HIM THOSE FRIDAY THE 13th SCORES ALREADY!!!"
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 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Bach-Choi   (Member)

The National Philharmonic does not actually exist as an independent orchestra. It, like the Sinfonia of London, is an amalgam of studio freelancers and musicians from London-based orchestras (LSO, LPO, RPO, ECO etc).

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

Never knew that.

COOL!!!!!!

Stefancos

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Stands next to David Maxx, in front of Harry Manfredini's studio with a picket sign "GIVE HIM THOSE FRIDAY THE 13th SCORES ALREADY!!!"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 23, 2001 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

The Bowling Green Philharmonic

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 1:32 AM   
 By:   Justin Doring   (Member)

I'm not really sure there is a "best" orchestra. It really depends upon what music is being performed. For example, to do Russian music correctly, you really do need a Russian orchestra to get the feeling right, not that Americans or Europeans can't come close. For film scores, I think the "pick-up" orchestras in L.A. are quite good, as is the London Symphony and the National Philharmonic (mainly because it's comprised of members of the best orchestras in London). For Romantic music (Mahler, Wagner, Brahms, Bruckner, etc.) I think you'd have a difficult time beating the Vienna Philharmonic, which was entirely male up to a year ago, I believe.

I'm glad to live in L.A., as the L.A. Philharmonic is the best orchestra on the west coast, and surpasses the Eastern U.S. orchestras in many types of music. This is my opinion, of course.

NP: Jerry Goldsmith's The Shadow
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 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

even thoug hit doesn't technically exist, it would have to be National Philharmonic all the way http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/smile.gif">

Some of my favourite scores of all time were done by them:


Supergirl
Santa Claus The Movie
Total Recall

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by Justin Doring:
For Romantic music (Mahler, Wagner, Brahms, Bruckner, etc.) I think you'd have a difficult time beating the Vienna Philharmonic, which was entirely male up to a year ago, I believe.

They've had a female harp player for a long time, but they never included her in any photos of the orchestra. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/rolleyes.gif"> Don't know if they have more women now (I haven't seen them live for some time), but I hope so.

Whenever Bruckner is mentioned, I have to comment as well. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/wink.gif"> Their sound is certainly perfect for Bruckner, but at least the Musikverein (where they do many recordings and most of their live concerts) don't have the right acoustics. Transparency is very important for Bruckner, I've yet to hear a recording of one of his symphonies where you can hear more than 50% of what Bruckner wrote. But Bruckner conductors are dying out, anyway. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/frown.gif"> (My parents had the chance of seeing Günter Wand conducting the 8th, but I doubt Wand will come to Austria again, he's nearly 90!)

NP: Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (Leonard Rosenman)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 2:28 AM   
 By:   Dinko   (Member)

Best? Hard to say, given all the factors which might have to be considered, not least of which is personal taste in terms of symphonic sound.

But my favourite would have to be the LSO. I've never heard a bad performance by the LSO, and I love the way they sound "united" in their playing, much more so than many other orchestras.

One thing I'm sure of, the Montreal Metropolitan under Nezet-Séguin is a thousand times better than the Montreal Symphony under Dutoit.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

I like the Royal Concertgebouw.

but that's me.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2001 - 12:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Have to go with the LSO as well, not just because of their technical and artistic finesse, but because of their tremendous SCOPE. They do film music as well as classical music as well as "orchestral pop" albums. Fabulous.

The Berlin Philharmoniker isn't bad either. Plenty of marvelous recordings on the Deutsche Gramophon label - from Karajan to Abbado.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 10:47 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

HUNGARIAN STATE OPERA ORCHESTRA is the best! I've never seen such a group of flawless musicians.


Umm, but seriously, I'll echo what Dan Hobgood said.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   Bach-Choi   (Member)

The Oslo Philharmonic is a superb orchestra as is the Melbourne (Australia) Symphony Orchestra. In North America, the orchestras of Cleveland, St. Louis, Atlanta and Montreal are all uniformly excellent. All of London's major orchestras are also outstanding--the recording of John Scott's "Greystoke" (by the Royal Philharmonic) is one of my all time favorite soundtrack recordings by a symphony orchestra.

 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

There are no simple answers. Depends to no small degree on who is conducting what. Since there are many great orchestras mentioned here already, I would have to add the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, still one of the finest around, and let's not forget the Orpheus Chamer Orchestra or the Chamber Orchestra of Europe, either. But even lesser orchestras can shine when the right conductor and the right repertoire comes along.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 24, 2001 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   Philipp   (Member)

@BillB:

is Greystoke still aviable?

NP: THE MUMMY RETURNS ( SILVESTRI )

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2001 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   Marian Schedenig   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by Thor:
The Berlin Philharmoniker isn't bad either. Plenty of marvelous recordings on the Deutsche Gramophon label - from Karajan to Abbado.

The Berliners are of course excellent, and Karajan is one of my favourite conductors, but I have yet to hear something by Abbado that impresses me.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 25, 2001 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Dinko   (Member)

quote:
Originally posted by JJH:
I like the Royal Concertgebouw.

but that's me.


Me too!

 
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