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Sep 12, 2014 - 1:44 PM
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MRAUDIO
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I wanted to bump this because I heard this for the first time today and it is a must-have for any fan of Goldsmith's 60's-70's music. The notes mention the ensembles are relatively small, but Goldsmith was in his prime in this period, and these scores show his versatility and the sheer talent he had. The cues range from one of the themes from SAND PEBBLES to jazzier pieces. What an assortment of approaches on this one disc.
I listen to this music and it is indeed more effusive and sometimes more melodramatic than I might prefer. Yet even those moments show that in that era, composers were putting on a show--this is music, not synth mumbling in the background, which is the generic, acceptable way to score 'drama' today, as if every serious scene requires the same dour approach.
What a treat to finally get a copy of this.
Totally agree, this is great stuff. Question - is there a Vol 2 planned?
Any update on whether or not more of the Jerry Goldsmith television material is coming out on CD?
Yeah, would love to see the Goldsmith and Stevens THRILLER stuff come out!:-)
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Jan 23, 2015 - 2:32 PM
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filmusicnow
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I wanted to bump this because I heard this for the first time today and it is a must-have for any fan of Goldsmith's 60's-70's music. The notes mention the ensembles are relatively small, but Goldsmith was in his prime in this period, and these scores show his versatility and the sheer talent he had. The cues range from one of the themes from SAND PEBBLES to jazzier pieces. What an assortment of approaches on this one disc.
I listen to this music and it is indeed more effusive and sometimes more melodramatic than I might prefer. Yet even those moments show that in that era, composers were putting on a show--this is music, not synth mumbling in the background, which is the generic, acceptable way to score 'drama' today, as if every serious scene requires the same dour approach.
What a treat to finally get a copy of this.
Totally agree, this is great stuff. Question - is there a Vol 2 planned?
Any update on whether or not more of the Jerry Goldsmith television material is coming out on CD?
Yeah, would love to see the Goldsmith and Stevens THRILLER stuff come out!:-)
And include Stevens' scores for "Waxworks" and "Pigeons From Hell" (which, unfortunately, are not isolsted on the "Thriller" D.V.D. set).
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Agreed on all counts, Kev. I really hope some label goes back to this stuff, perhaps going by series this time and including some other composers' work.
It's actually not the oldest Goldsmith music on CD, because Intrada released his second feature film score, City of Fear, which was recorded in 1958. I think all of this TV music album was recorded in 1959 and 1960, though I don't have it in front of me to check recording dates on everything.
Yavar
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So I've been listening to this disc a lot lately, in preparation for our Goldsmith Odyssey episode on his two Perry Mason scores...I'm amazed to say that contrary to my first impressions years ago that it was the highlight, the Perry Mason stuff is actually some of my least favorite on this disc! The early appearance of the "Chinese Love Theme" from The Sand Pebbles is by far the highlight of the score, and whenever it plays it's magic, but the rest of the music leaves less of an impression on me, and the TV stingers and such really date this one, and hamper its ability to play as straight music IMO.
The only stuff I like less on the CD is the library music, which has its moments but over all is so static that it betrays the fact that it wasn't composed to picture. It is cool how The Camp & The Camp at Night have a motif early on that anticipates Rambo: First Blood Part II decades later. But overall lots of repetition here, probably so that it can be cut down or extended for a scene as needed...it actually comes across kind of like what Jerry would have written for a video game, of all things. It's "mood music" not designed to "hit" anything but kind of just play in the background and create atmosphere. I'm well aware that much game music goes far beyond this, but it's a common thing that game music can suffer from...imagine playing an RPG and arriving at some vaguely Asian camp location...that's basically what the two cues I mentioned sound like. Ditto for most of Quiet Night except with a vaguely Native American setting. It's only occasionally when this material bursts out into something more exciting.
The two Playhouse 90 scores, on the other hand, are fantastic, feature-quality work, albeit on a small budget with small orchestra. HIGHLY recommended, and I'm going to have to seek out the episodes somehow since RM Eastman recommended one in particular.
And The Lineup is a TON of fun...I would love for his other (two?) scores for this series to get released. It shares some musical DNA with the few jazzy bits of City of Fear, but turned up to 11! I kinda wish the score had been split up into a few cues though, rather than the one long suite.
Everyone Goldsmith fan who doesn't have this yet should pick it up. And since it seems unlikely that a Vol. 2 will ever follow, I'm going to crazily call for something perhaps even less likely:
Lukas/Ford/whoever is reading this and in a position to do something...clearly a Vol. 2 (and perhaps beyond) was originally planned, indicating that more material does indeed survive in the CBS vaults. Well...how about a BOX SET collecting all the remaining "Jerry Goldsmith at CBS"? You know, like a 5 disc, TV Omnibus kind of deal? Just get everything left in the vaults out there for folks desperate for more Jerry premieres (far more scarce these days -- and therefore probably more demand -- than when this disc was put out over a decade ago). Putting more famous stuff on the set like his Gunsmoke or Have Gun, Will Travel episode scores might make it more enticing to people, assuming tapes survive.
Or if that is just too cost-prohibitive, I wonder what the chances are for releases by series...
Say, a Perry Mason soundtrack disc with both of Jerry's scores, plus some of the best by Fred Steiner or whoever else. Something along the lines of FSM's superb Cain's Hundred disc which filled out the Jerry material with a superb Morton Stevens score. Or a single disc for The Lineup (aka San Francisco Beat) with everything Jerry recorded, plus more by others if there is room. Of course most interesting of all would be some kind of Playhouse 90 set...
Yavar
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