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Él/Cherry Red Records is just a branch of Cherry Red Records. Once again there is nothing illegitimate about them.
With such a mindset even a label like Membran in Germany more than 10 years ago would have been legitimate as well. 
Concerning soundtracks, for the most part El/Cherry Red did nothing else and simply copied tracks from LPs and CDs. Just look for example at their "Fantasy Film World" Herrmann CD which simply ripped tracks from the Varese Herrmann box (or from later reincarnations on Kritzerland). So easy to see by just looking at the track titles they copied. Do you think this would indeed be a legitimate action? It is only "legitimate" because of the public domain loophole in Europe and because for US labels it would be much too expensive and therefore not rewarding to file a lawsuit against this label within this soundtrack niche market.
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I am sure that with other sections of the Cherry Red Label it may be completely different and those CDs you mention may be legitimate, but their soundtracks on the El sub-label are really odd releases - to say the least.
Just take another example with their Piccioni CD a few years ago: IL MAFIOSO from 1962 is in fact owned by Radiofilmusica/Laurentiis - you surely know what this means - and the other tracks on that disc by other Italian music publishers. It is totally clear that El hasn´t licensed anything at all for this CD and simply ripped older EPs/LPs/CDs in the same way Disques Cinemusique in Canada does it. If it could be done so easily, the complete MAFIOSO score had long been released by Digitmovies or another Italian label. But there is very little chance that it will be published on an official, legitimate CD if Laurentiis don´t change their terms and conditions.
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Oct 28, 2017 - 2:58 PM
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Essankay
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Many of the US labels consider El/Cherry Red to be bootleggers, though, and that's good enough for me.
Many people believe the earth is flat, and that's good enough for me.
In fact, I believe the guy who owns this site thinks they're bootleggers (correct me if I'm wrong, Lukas).
Thinking critically, the LAST person who is going to convince me of a label's illegitimacy will be the owner of a competing label, who obviously stands to gain if his customers have that perception. It's like believing the results of a climate change study funded by oil companies.
I'm really amused to find you using flat earth and climate change examples to shore up your flimsy assertions, since the facts are arrayed against your position. Once upon a time I used to patronize these dodgy kinds of companies, but I wised up when I saw how they were actually interfering with legit releases and legit businesses, so I stopped. Some people will go to any lengths to justify getting what they want when they want it, apparently.
But keep it up, baby, you're batting a thousand (in your mind).
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Oct 30, 2017 - 3:33 AM
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Essankay
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I have no dog in this race, and how you view El/Cherry Red is your business. I am simply pointing out the absurdity of using biased sources, e.g., owners of competing record labels, in making these assessments. I believe that unbiased (to the degree possible) sources are more valuable. If you don't, hey, it's your thang, do what you want to do.
Well of course unbiased sources are more valuable, that's logical. But I haven't found any sources other than you that are defending El/Cherry Red in this regard. So your sources that you believe are unbiased (or less biased) on this subject - and surely you must have some since you seem thoroughly convinced, beyond a shadow of a doubt - are of interest to me and I'm sure others as well. Please share them with us so everyone can make their own assessment.
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