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Please be advised that not all the music was placed in these clips by MornNB as it was intended by North.
Was a NTSC DVD used for this, or a PAL one?
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Gotta love revisionist who think they can improve upon one of the world greatest directors.
Who would you be referring to here?
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Please be advised that not all the music was placed in these clips by MornNB as it was intended by North.
Indeed. Most of it isn't. I assumed it was at first, but 'Night Terrors', 'Space Station Docking', 'The Dawn of Man' and 'Moon Rocket Bus' are either way off in spotting, or the wrong cue altogether.
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PAL. Not that that's really relevant anyway, as I mostly used Goldsmith recording as it's for the most part better performance.
I intended this as an impression of what the film scored by North would be like.
Then if garnering respect for North is your intention, you should use the North recording (which will actually sync up), use it in the places North wrote it for, multiply the speed of your Pal-ripped footage by 24/25, and minimse your own 'editorial' contribution. As it is, it's disinformation.
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You must remember. Firstly the movie was heavily edited after North scored it.
The two ape battles by the pond were shortened significantly, and one short shot was inserted into the 'Bones' scene (the jump cut to the monolith), but otherwise the re-editing of the film was concentrated on sections which were never scored by North in the first place. It's possible to see exactly how the music and scene go together for most of North's cues, and the Intrada release of the original tracks gives a very clear idea of how to do this.
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Apr 7, 2008 - 6:32 PM
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MornNB
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Ok. I'll explain what I did some what.
I would note a few things of interest.
In the foraging the music works great in my opinion. The goldsmith recording is better it seems to feature updated orchestration for this cue so I used that. It's very much like a North/Kubrick Koyaanisqatsi.
The bluff works ok. However, the scene with the Leopard blows me away, it's perfect to score the master of the food chain with a dissonant brass fanfare. The original recording is probably better due to it's more fitting tempo except for the part scoring the Leopard, where the clear goldsmith recording helps the music, so I used Goldsmith version here too.
Night terrors I don't think needs any music, so I put that music instead in the monolith scene where it does a decent job of replacing Ligeti.
Eat Meat And Kill works extremely well at showing that man is now master of the food chain with an aggressive brass action cue, but I used the end of the foraging alternate for the end of this scene, as that music just seems to fit that section perfectly and I doubt that's by accident.
Space station docking, I wasn't sure that the OST really worked here or that it even scored the same sequence, so I took some music from dragonslayer and the Goldsmith recording and I think it works great. I might try the OST recording though, looking at it again it seems North's idea was to use dissonance brass parts throughout the cue to suggest the strangeness of floating weightless.
Moon rocket bus fits the moon landing sequence extremely well and it seems like it's meant to be. I'll try putting it in the actual moon rocket sequence, the problem is I don't think it works well with the dialogue scene there.
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I think it's absolutely terrible. I steadfastly believe that 2001 would not be considered the classic it is today if North's score had been kept.
I feel it cheapens the movie.
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Try to remember that the spotting of North's music here doesn't exactly follow his intentions. (Which I think is a real problem with clips like this - they send people away with the impression that they've seen the best Alex North had to offer, when it violates the score's integrity repeatedly.)
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