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 Posted:   May 6, 2008 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   piano632   (Member)

So what is the story behind Morricone's music for Spazio 1999 (Space 1999)? It is so crazy and bizarre that only Morricone could get away with something like this. So was this music actually used in the Italian version of the TV series?

I have posted the music on YouTube now that I figured out the trick to getting stereo sound on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNax2A0OusE

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2008 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   Tester   (Member)

Bizarre, indeed... sounds more appropriate for a movie like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas than for sci-fi... I wonder what kind of travels where they doing in that series wink

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2008 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   spectrum   (Member)

From Wikipedia: "There were two seasons of 24 episodes each made by Gerry Anderson for ITC Entertainment. The first season was co-produced by the Italian state broadcaster, RAI. As part of this production agreement, various episodes featured Italian actors in guest-starring roles."

I can only gather from this that there was also an agreement where RAI could use different Main Title music and thus Ennio Morricone was used in this regard.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2008 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

Morricone didn't write for Space 1999. I believe that a piece of his library music (he wrote several albums of such music) was used for Italian versions of the show.

It's a bizarre marriage, I agree, and would have made quite a strange series even stranger. But the music is interesting and highly imaginative in its own right. I think I have a copy of one of his library albums somewhere, and the music is, like that track, waaay out there!

 
 
 Posted:   May 9, 2008 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Heh....well, the music is definitely very "spacey"....in an acid-trip-like way.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2008 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Zambra Alex   (Member)

But a good bizarre IMO. For those weird mood days.
The disco theme is good anyway.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2008 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   piano632   (Member)

Be sure to notice the other clips I have posted there also. They are mostly Morricone and various spaghetti westerns, though not quite as bizarre as Spazio 1999. There is some rare Morricone there, such as "I Motorizzati" and "Geminus", though these are more pop-oriented scores. Newer files are in stereo (or good mono if no stereo available); the older ones are still in mediocre mono till I get around to replacing them.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=filmscoremaniac

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2008 - 12:15 AM   
 By:   UFO Robot   (Member)

So was this music actually used in the Italian version of the TV series?



Luckily for the ears of the Italian viewers, it wasn't.

Morricone's music can be heard only in the compilation movie SPAZIO 1999, which was shown in theaters to launch the TV series.

For the latter, all of the music composed by Barry Gray was retained, including his themes for the opening and closing credits.

Fabio
from Milano - Italy

 
 Posted:   May 10, 2008 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I recall the series from kiddy days. It was unwatchable, I didn't watch it.

The only unique sci-fi groundbreaking rule about the show was that it dared to be about NOTHING ... zilch .... big zero in the 'meanings' department. Which rendered it disqualified as true sci-fi. Not that I'm any massive sci-fi-er anyhow.

The thing depended on the sort of 'anything in a spaceship is just fab' background that worked in a very funny and kitsch way with the various puppet series. But it just couldn't cut it with real human characters. The awful 'UFO' was even worse. Anderson's mob were a 'maguffin' crew who thought sci-fi was just new guesses at technology. It din't transfer to the adult world, whereas 'Thunderbirds', which was never pretentious to start with, ironically is now adult cult material.

This music is interesting, Morricone jazz. There's theme in there if you listen. It could've been up there with Goldsmith's 'Apes' or the Waxman jazz scores. And it captures the feel of the 'cold, metallic, space' thing if you want it that way. Much more advanced than 'Apes' really, if we're honest. Interesting music, terrible show.

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I just found a whole album of Morricone’s Space: 1999 on iTunes!

As it turns out, ‘interesting’ is probably the best way to describe this. Avant Garde jazz — and really, really cold. The show is of course goofy as hell, campy even for the days it was released in. This score would have taken it waaaaay to serious.

The music separated from anything, as serious music. It’s tough stuff. Captvating in a strange way. And.. interesting.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   blue15   (Member)

I just found a whole album of Morricone’s Space: 1999 on iTunes!

As it turns out, ‘interesting’ is probably the best way to describe this. Avant Garde jazz — and really, really cold. The show is of course goofy as hell, campy even for the days it was released in. This score would have taken it waaaaay to serious.

The music separated from anything, as serious music. It’s tough stuff. Captvating in a strange way. And.. interesting.


Available on CD from various outlets and on vinyl from Mondo:

https://mondotees.com/collections/deathwaltz/products/space-1999

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

I only Dig It..if I steal medication out of my moms purse!

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I recall the series from kiddy days. It was unwatchable, I didn't watch it.

The only unique sci-fi groundbreaking rule about the show was that it dared to be about NOTHING ... zilch .... big zero in the 'meanings' department. Which rendered it disqualified as true sci-fi. Not that I'm any massive sci-fi-er anyhow.
.


Space 1999 was like Lost In Space, interesting concept, (if over the top) with a great pilot episode. All down hill after that. They could remake it, but instead of the Moon being blasted out of Earths orbit, have the Earth blow itself up from a nuclear war leaving the Moonbase the only home for humans and their struggles to stay alive in such an environment.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Much more advanced than 'Apes' really, if we're honest. Interesting music, terrible show.


Wow, that comment killed the thread for almost ten years!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   SENTENZA   (Member)

I recall the series from kiddy days. It was unwatchable, I didn't watch it.

The only unique sci-fi groundbreaking rule about the show was that it dared to be about NOTHING ... zilch .... big zero in the 'meanings' department. Which rendered it disqualified as true sci-fi. Not that I'm any massive sci-fi-er anyhow.
.


Space 1999 was like Lost In Space, interesting concept, (if over the top) with a great pilot episode. All down hill after that. They could remake it, but instead of the Moon being blasted out of Earths orbit, have the Earth blow itself up from a nuclear war leaving the Moonbase the only home for humans and their struggles to stay alive in such an environment.


what is bizarre is not the music, its that there are people who don t like the series, SPACE 1999 is my favorite show, just below the original STAR TREK !

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

SPACE: 1999 Season One has some GREAT sci-fi storys and many of them tops a lot of ST:TOS episodes (by the way: i love ST too).

For 1975 it was indeed a VERY impressive production and it has much superior storys than BATTLESTAR
GALACTICA for example (wich has only the pilot, the Kobol-story and the Pegasus-story wich were truly made well).

After big changes in the production, season two of SPACE:1999 was much more silly and much less interesting.

But the original music of SPACE:1999 is very, very good (for BOTH seasons) and Morricones music is not only terrible, it don`t fit at all (and by the way: i do love Morricone too ;-)).
You can find an italien version of the SPACE: 1999 pilot episode with that music - it truly does not work (for me).

By the way: the recent LP-release of Morricones Space:1999 music has such a great cover-artwork (far superior to the CD release and even better than the Space:1999 original LP-Album cover).
Worth alone to buy it (if you are a fan of the series).

 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)



what is bizarre is not the music, its that there are people who don t like the series, SPACE 1999 is my favorite show, just below the original STAR TREK !


This thread might get killed again.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 5, 2018 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

SPACE: 1999 Season One has some GREAT sci-fi storys and many of them tops a lot of ST:TOS episodes (by the way: i love ST too).

For 1975 it was indeed a VERY impressive production and it has much superior storys than BATTLESTAR
GALACTICA for example (wich has only the pilot, the Kobol-story and the Pegasus-story wich were truly made well).

After big changes in the production, season two of SPACE:1999 was much more silly and much less interesting.

But the original music of SPACE:1999 is very, very good (for BOTH seasons) and Morricones music is not only terrible, it don`t fit at all (and by the way: i do love Morricone too ;-)).
You can find an italien version of the SPACE: 1999 pilot episode with that music - it truly does not work (for me).

By the way: the recent LP-release of Morricones Space:1999 music has such a great cover-artwork (far superior to the CD release and even better than the Space:1999 original LP-Album cover).
Worth alone to buy it (if you are a fan of the series).


Agree wholeheartedly. Season two broke my heart.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2018 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

SPACE: 1999 Season One has some GREAT sci-fi storys and many of them tops a lot of ST:TOS episodes (by the way: i love ST too).

For 1975 it was indeed a VERY impressive production and it has much superior storys than BATTLESTAR
GALACTICA for example (wich has only the pilot, the Kobol-story and the Pegasus-story wich were truly made well).

After big changes in the production, season two of SPACE:1999 was much more silly and much less interesting.

But the original music of SPACE:1999 is very, very good (for BOTH seasons) and Morricones music is not only terrible, it don`t fit at all (and by the way: i do love Morricone too ;-)).
You can find an italien version of the SPACE: 1999 pilot episode with that music - it truly does not work (for me).

By the way: the recent LP-release of Morricones Space:1999 music has such a great cover-artwork (far superior to the CD release and even better than the Space:1999 original LP-Album cover).
Worth alone to buy it (if you are a fan of the series).


Agree wholeheartedly. Season two broke my heart.


I'm with you two regarding Space 1999. Hard to believe anyone who was a kid when it was on hated it! My whole fondness for the Gerry Anderson product started with the puppet shows, but carried on into the live action ones because they were all so stylish and fun. And I LOVED UFO!, my favourite in many ways.

It's true Gerry's understanding of sf was not dissimilar to Irwin Allen's. All hardware and sfx, with not a ton of genuine sf thinking through it all. A shame neither of these two otherwise great showmen didn't think to hire a scientific advisor from the start. I do agree that Thunderbirds is the perfect Anderson series, as it doesn't overreach itself, and the rescues with the fabulous craft are safer ground for Gerry and co than going into outer space. But ultimately his shows are about panache, style, action and great production. On these levels they ARE great, and especially wrapped up in the wonderful music of Barry Gray. His music is one of the most iconic parts of these already iconic productions. I'm baffled anyone could say otherwise.

I'm a big Morricone fan, but there's no way Gray's music for any Anderson show can be replaced by anyone, not even the great Morricone.

Btw, the first episode Breakaway is indeed excellent, and I also like very much Dragon's Domain, a rather good monster episode in the otherwise fairly monster-less first season. I seem to recall a classical piece in this, together with Barbara Bain's icy narration, both adding to a nice dream-like feel.

 
 Posted:   Mar 6, 2018 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Season two broke my heart.


For all of us. In a contest of good first season / bad second season-ratio Space: 1999 might win it from Buck Rogers and Designated Survivor.

 
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