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 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Despite the possible trouble regarding this subject, I felt the need to write about it.
I e-mailed Harkit Records to confirm their upcoming release of Barry's Boom score, and their monumental response to my e-mail quite surprised me.
In fact, instead of replying my initial question (which i'll quote here: "Hello,
Amazon.com has John Barry's score to Boom on pre-order from your label. Is this release really coming from you? Thank you,
Alex"), they actually took the liberty to check my posts here on the board (which were quite hard, I must admit), and basically answered everything I talked about here.
I apologized to them, and i'll do it here, for saying they're not hard-working. I must also apologize for underestimating their work behind other releases they claim were legal (such as Klute), and i'll have no further words on BOOM until more light is shed on the release.

I thought about quoting their e-mail, but i'm not doing it because they basically threatened me with a "Disclaimer Notice" attached to their response (they asked me to read it) which claimed that doing such a thing was illegal and legal action could be taken. They also said they would keep a close eye on me, and further criticized our "little world of bloggers". I never expected such a response, but there you go. I knew lots of dirty things went behind producing those shiny discs we all cherish, but this is beyond the norm, for me.

Alex

P.S: How I wish now that BOOM was released by another label.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Despite the possible trouble regarding this subject, I felt the need to write about it.
I e-mailed Harkit Records to confirm their upcoming release of Barry's Boom score, and their monumental response to my e-mail quite surprised me.
In fact, instead of replying my initial question (which i'll quote here: "Hello,
Amazon.com has John Barry's score to Boom on pre-order from your label. Is this release really coming from you? Thank you,
Alex"), they actually took the liberty to check my posts here on the board (which were quite hard, I must admit), and basically answered everything I talked about here.
I apologized to them, and i'll do it here, for saying they're not hard-working. I must also apologize for underestimating their work behind other releases they claim were legal (such as Harkit), and i'll have no further words on BOOM until more light is shed on the release.

I thought about quoting their e-mail, but i'm not doing it because they basically threatened me with a "Disclaimer Notice" attached to their response (they asked me to read it) which claimed that doing such a thing was illegal and legal action could be taken. They also said they would keep a close eye on me, and further criticized our "little world of bloggers". I never expected such a response, but there you go. I knew lots of dirty things went behind producing those shiny discs we all cherish, but this is beyond the norm, for me.

Alex

P.S: How I wish now that BOOM was released by another label.


Alex- don't... Don't look into... The BOX. big grin

They'll sue ya- and then turn around and hit ya and slap ya! big grin

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

Perhaps one of the mods should remove the original thread...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I'm not intimidated by their "threats", but it did surprise me. As a side note, quoting their e-mail would simply bring more problems, and despite the fact that i'm on vacation, I have better things to do with my time.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Perhaps one of the mods should remove the original thread...

Nah, I say keep it up. It's a good way to get to see the dark side of these labels razz.

Alex

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Despite the possible trouble regarding this subject, I felt the need to write about it.
I e-mailed Harkit Records to confirm their upcoming release of Barry's Boom score, and their monumental response to my e-mail quite surprised me.
In fact, instead of replying my initial question (which i'll quote here: "Hello,
Amazon.com has John Barry's score to Boom on pre-order from your label. Is this release really coming from you? Thank you,
Alex"), they actually took the liberty to check my posts here on the board (which were quite hard, I must admit), and basically answered everything I talked about here.
I apologized to them, and i'll do it here, for saying they're not hard-working. I must also apologize for underestimating their work behind other releases they claim were legal (such as Harkit), and i'll have no further words on BOOM until more light is shed on the release.

I thought about quoting their e-mail, but i'm not doing it because they basically threatened me with a "Disclaimer Notice" attached to their response (they asked me to read it) which claimed that doing such a thing was illegal and legal action could be taken. They also said they would keep a close eye on me, and further criticized our "little world of bloggers". I never expected such a response, but there you go. I knew lots of dirty things went behind producing those shiny discs we all cherish, but this is beyond the norm, for me.

Alex

P.S: How I wish now that BOOM was released by another label.


The more I read this, the fucking madder I get. Don't cower to these weasels.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

So...we Harkit critics are now black-listed !

Cool.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Agent Norman Newman   (Member)

what thread are you referring to? can you link to it?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Dorian   (Member)

what thread are you referring to? can you link to it?

It's the thread about the upcoming BOOM release

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51489&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Like I said, I recognize my harsh tone in the BOOM thread, but they went too far with their response. And they actually took the liberty of reading this board to attack me. Of course, they're welcome to take legal action (!), i've never been in europe razz.

Alex

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Like I said, I recognize my harsh tone in the BOOM thread, but they went too far with their response. And they actually took the liberty of reading this board to attack me. Of course, they're welcome to take legal action (!), i've never been in europe razz.

Alex


Hmm. I didn't think your tone was harsh. there have been far more inflammatory things said here than what you said. I don't understand Harkit's anger. I'm not familiar with them at all, but threatening a consumer seems...counterproductive.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Agent Norman Newman   (Member)

alex basically accuses them of being bootleggers and has yet to retract said statement.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Hmm. I didn't think your tone was harsh. there have been far more inflammatory things said here than what you said. I don't understand Harkit's anger. I'm not familiar with them at all, but threatening a consumer seems...counterproductive.

Well, maybe I was harsh, maybe I wasn't. I don't care right now, really. I apologized, and i'm not the one making threats.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

alex basically accuses them of being bootleggers and has yet to retract said statement.

And I won't retract until we have more information regarding this release. Intrada CLEARLY explained that UMG did not have ANY paperwork or masters to make the CD release possible. How is Harkit doing this, then?!

Alex

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Agent Norman Newman   (Member)

Is it in the public domain yet?

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Well, I'll say it. And damn me if If they have the living guts to do something about it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Is it in the public domain yet?

No, it isn't.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I think everyone knows how I feel about these sorts of threats - sue or shut the hell up - it's the Internet. People have said fairly incorrect and even damaging things about me, all untrue - what am I going to do, sue everyone? Basically, and sadly, you can say anything you damn well please and get away with it. I know an actor who had an affair with a almost-sixteen year old girl (he was in his thirties) - the sex was consensual but after five years she went to the police, he was arrested and charged with the usual things, and then they plea bargained and he served thirty days in jail, and doesn't have to register as a sex offender.

On various boards, this fellow, who should have known better but didn't, has been called a pedophile repeatedly and the people doing the name-calling say he was convicted of being a pedophile and a child molester, neither of which is in any way true. When that's pointed out to these creeps, they keep it up, even though they know it's slanderous and untrue. Why? Because they can. Because they're anonymous cowardly cretins. And thus - the joys of Internet life. It's not as bad as it used to be in the wild and wooly days of Usenet, but it's bad.

All that said - note to Harkit:

Sue or shut the hell up and don't threaten people who post on chat boards. Or state your case to them nicely in an e-mail. Since we know you're not going to sue, really, shut up and make your CDs and sell them. Whether they're legal and have been licensed properly is something only you can know, unless the rights holders speak up and say stop. Clearly, in the case of Klute, Mr. Kendall did a proper licensing of the title. If the Harkit release had done that then I don't think Mr. Kendall would have been able to, but that is just a supposition on my part.

If Harkit has only read this thread, what entertainment awaits them should they choose to use the search function. smile

I own a couple of Harkit releases - they're okay. Sound could be better, but I'm sure they're doing the best they can with what they have. There - I've offered an opinion - sue me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 5:38 PM   
 By:   captain X   (Member)

I don't know... Harkit beat him to it? Harkit had no license? They just went in and made Klute? I don't believe any of this.
What about all their other non-soundtrack releases? They are plenty. Boots too?
What about that release not that long ago by... what are they called? Yes... Collector's Choice. Amigos something. Is thay a boot or is it because it is American based it is okay and justified as a label?

Sorry if I might sound distrusting. I don't believe any of this crap that is being discussed here and everyone who is buing it.
Disclaimer notice???... What have you been saying about Harkit that is so corrosive? We are living in a democracy... I think. I'm sure Harkit has better things to do with their time Alex.
I would like to hear the other side's story by the other side. I don't believe that Harkit has ever posted here to defend themselves. I would like to see that. On the other hand, why should they even bother? Everyone seems to have this preconditioned notion about them. I wonder how that was cultivated?
In any case, enjoy your vacation!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2008 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

I just posted my reaction here because it was an unusual response. I seriously doubt they'll take legal action (and it makes me laugh to think about such a thing!).
And like I said, there'll be more to say when we get more information regarding their mysterious BOOM release.

Alex

 
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