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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: CINDERELLA LIBERTY by John Williams    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2       Last Post   Posted:   Jul 1, 2008 - 2:41 PM     By:   Thor   (Member) Wow, great news! I've had two different LP-to-CD transfers for years, but both of them are CD-R's and both of them had begun to skip, so this couldn't have come at a better time. Although I'm not too keen on the "Nice to be Around" song, the soundtrack is 70's coolness at its best. Love how Williams channels those funky rock/jazz riffs in "Maggie Shoots Pool", for example. That it keeps the LP program and avoids C&C presentation, is an added bonus! ORDERED!    Posted:   Jul 1, 2008 - 3:26 PM     By:   Hercule Platini   (Member) I'm going to have to get this. I love that easy-70s Williams sound.    Posted:   Jul 1, 2008 - 5:11 PM     By:   cirtap   (Member) I have Nice to be Around sung by Maureen McGovern, it is better than the effort of Paul Williams. She has a prettier voice than ms.Paul, lol I remember seeing the picture not to long ago, for the first time. It was a salty flic, i was suprised how R rated it seem for even back then. But Caan and Marsha were good together, and that Johnny Williams music was used very well and not all over the place. Great lil score.    Posted:   Jul 1, 2008 - 5:30 PM     By:   spielboy   (Member) well, I love Paul Williams voice. Little big man he is and great lyricist.    Posted:   Jul 1, 2008 - 6:58 PM     By:   cirtap   (Member) well, I love Paul Williams voice. Little big man he is and great lyricist. aint knocking Paul Williams, he is a good writer of lyrics, and you all would not know this but he won a OSCAR for writing Evergreen, if u ask Barbra she would tell U that she did it all. lol    Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 4:30 AM     By:   Browny   (Member) Thor, speaking of "Maggie Shoots Pool" some of you may or may not be aware that a snippet of this cue is featured as background music in "The Towering Inferno" but does not appear on the soundtrack for that classic Williams CD from FSM. (It is used as lounge music during some of the Promenade Room scenes, specifically when William Holden converses on the phone with Paul Newman). As a John Williams aficionado how great to finally be able to get it remastered now on the Intrada "Cinderella Liberty" CD! And Cirtap, I think you're being a little harsh on Barbra Streisand. Granted, both she and Paul Williams won Oscars for writing "Evergreen" (Love Theme from "A Star Is Born") (1976) and on the DVD-audio commentary of the Warner Bros. film in 2005 she more than praises Williams for his wonderful lyrics. And as good as they were/are it is her music that made the song the number one hit of its time. IMHO. She even says in the commentary that it was possibly the single most thrilling moment of her career to win... and be the first FEMALE composer to ever write an Oscar winning song... she goes on to say that back in the old days women were always lyricists. That may have been right in 1977 but has probably been superseded in the intervening years since then. Some may also be aware that she has since dabbled periodically in film scoring, most notably in her films "Nuts" (1987) -- a rare 15 minute CD -- and the Love Theme from "The Mirror Has Two Faces" (1992).    Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 10:05 AM     By:   cirtap   (Member) Thor, speaking of "Maggie Shoots Pool" some of you may or may not be aware that a snippet of this cue is featured as background music in "The Towering Inferno" but does not appear on the soundtrack for that classic Williams CD from FSM. (It is used as lounge music during some of the Promenade Room scenes, specifically when William Holden converses on the phone with Paul Newman). As a John Williams aficionado how great to finally be able to get it remastered now on the Intrada "Cinderella Liberty" CD! And Cirtap, I think you're being a little harsh on Barbra Streisand. Granted, both she and Paul Williams won Oscars for writing "Evergreen" (Love Theme from "A Star Is Born") (1976) and on the DVD-audio commentary of the Warner Bros. film in 2005 she more than praises Williams for his wonderful lyrics. And as good as they were/are it is her music that made the song the number one hit of its time. IMHO. She even says in the commentary that it was possibly the single most thrilling moment of her career to win... and be the first FEMALE composer to ever write an Oscar winning song... she goes on to say that back in the old days women were always lyricists. That may have been right in 1977 but has probably been superseded in the intervening years since then. Some may also be aware that she has since dabbled periodically in film scoring, most notably in her films "Nuts" (1987) -- a rare 15 minute CD -- and the Love Theme from "The Mirror Has Two Faces" (1992). SOOOO barbra thinks she is the first woman composer to win a OSCAR, Marilyn Bergman rings a bell. She won Oscars for Windmills of your Mind, and The Way we Were!! Before Barbra won her's in 1977. HUMMMMM    Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 11:28 AM     By:   AHerrera83   (Member) ...She even says in the commentary that it was possibly the single most thrilling moment of her career to win... and be the first FEMALE composer to ever write an Oscar winning song... she goes on to say that back in the old days women were always lyricists. That may have been right in 1977 but has probably been superseded in the intervening years since then. SOOOO barbra thinks she is the first woman composer to win a OSCAR, Marilyn Bergman rings a bell. She won Oscars for Windmills of your Mind, and The Way we Were!! Before Barbra won her's in 1977. HUMMMMM Actually the quote states that she's the first female to win an Oscar for writing the MUSIC. I believe Marilyn Beergman was the LYRICIST for these two songs, with Michel Legrand and Marvin Hamlisch, respectively, writing the music, so her quote is accurate.    Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 4:44 PM     By:   RM Eastman   (Member) Pass    Posted:   Jul 2, 2008 - 4:50 PM     By:   Miguel Andrade   (Member) I have Nice to be Around sung by Maureen McGovern, it is better than the effort of Paul Williams. She has a prettier voice than ms.Paul, lol Funny you mention McGovern... this particular song must be one of Williams' most often recorded.    Posted:   Jul 3, 2008 - 4:24 AM     By:   Miguel Andrade   (Member) Well... I just went through my archives and this is the complete listing of cover recordings of this tune: Vocal by Paul Williams (3:05) Released in 1974 on A&M Records 3655 Vocal by Maureen McGovern (2:25) Released in 1974 on 20th Century Fox Records TCR-2 Performed by Toots Thielemans (3:13) Recorded Live in 1974 Released on Polygram 831 694-2 Vocal by Johnny Mathis (3:54) Arranged by D'Arneill Pershing Released in 1975 on Columbia Records CQ-44320 Vocal by Helen Reddy (2:54) Arranged by Nick DeCaro Released in 1976 on Capitol Records 11547 Vocal by Rosemary Clooney (4:23) Arranged by Del Newman Released in 1977 on United Artists Records UAS 30008 Performed by Croad Terry Grand Orchestra (3:35) Arranged by Shoji Yokouchi Released in 1979 on Denon SX-7006 Performed by Earl Klugh (3:01) Arranged and Conducted by Dave Mathews Released in 1980 on Liberty Records LT-1079 Performed by Gary LeMel (3:00) Arranged and Conducted by Randy Waldman Released in 1994 on Blue Note Records 29479 Vocal by Freddy Cole (5:26) Arranged by Freddy Cole, Larry Willis and Steve Berrios Released in 1996 on Fantasy Records FCD 9674-2 Performed by Fred Karlin and Band (5:38) Arranged by Fred Karlin Released in 1997 on Varese Sarabande Records VSD 5760 Performed by Martin Stempel and Band (4:57) Olaf Schümann, guitar/Jörn Henrich, bass/ /Stefan Leibinger, drums Recorded live at the Bebop Bar, Berlin-Kreuzberg on December 13th, 2003 Available on-line at http://mahawa.jw-music.net Performed by Martin Stempel and Band (5:18) Olaf Schümann, guitar/Bene Jahnel, piano/ /Rudolfo Paccapello, bass/Stefan Leibinger, drums Recorded in 2004 (promotional recording) Available on-line at http://www.martinstempel.de/ Performed by The National Youth Jazz Orchestra (4:02) Soprano Sax soloist: Phil Knights, Orchestra conducted by Evan Jolly Arranged by Evan Jolly Released in 2004 on Silva Screen Records FILMCD 371 Performed by David Regele, piano (3:11) Available on-line at http://mahawa.jw-music.net Vocal by Paul Williams (4:23) John Sanders, keyboards & saxophone/ /Chris Caswell, piano, keyboard and bass pedals Recorded Live in Japan in 2003 Released in 2006 on “Love Wants to Dance” CD Sample available on-line at http://paulwilliamsconnection.org/    Posted:   Jul 4, 2008 - 1:01 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) I played my old copy of this last night and it reminded me of nights spent alone in my room, in my late teens, feeling all melancholy and lonely, wondering if I'd ever meet someone to share my life with, or be one of life's lonesters. It has that kind of sound to it. The harmonica stuff also always reminds me of Sesame Street, with the announcer telling us the letters and numbers of the day and the Television Workshop. Also, Nice To Be Around* sounds like it's being sung by Robin Williams doing his Popeye impersonation. The songs even have a Nilsson quality to them. Just some random thoughts. * I might just mean Wednesday Special there, or maybe both. It was late.    Posted:   Oct 27, 2016 - 3:55 PM     By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member) Does anybody know how much additional music there is in the film that wasn't on the LP / CD?    Posted:   Oct 27, 2016 - 5:14 PM     By:   SchiffyM   (Member) I've never seen the movie, but my understanding from a Williams fan who has is that the album is different from the movie score in some ways, in that a lot of the pieces are cut up for the film, but that the album largely covers the music in the film, even if presented somewhat differently.    Posted:   Oct 28, 2016 - 3:19 AM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) Yep. What Schiffy(s mate) said. The album is so much more polished and produced than the film score, which comes across more scratchy and bitty. In regard to missing music, apart from one brief score cue, some extra bar source cues and marching band stuff, the album is pretty much complete (some cues may be longer/fleshed out on the album) and plays much better than the score.    Posted:   Oct 29, 2016 - 8:12 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Yes, the album versions are much cooler and polished than the film versions, especially as far as the funky source music is concerned. Also, much of it is buried in sound effects in the pool sequence. I re-watched the film recently, and it's actually a decent affair -- the plot may be a bit maudlin, but it's saved by Zsigmond's gorgeous, gritty photography, the performances and Williams' score. It's very much in Hal Ashby style of THE LAST DETAIL, but perhaps not quite as good. This is one of my go-to soundtracks for displaying Williams' versatility, especially those two Isaac Hayes-like source cues.     General Discussion: CINDERELLA LIBERTY by John Williams    << < 1 2  >   Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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